How do you interpret Romans 1:27?

(from a reader in England)

Cybele on a Roman coin as Mater Deum<br>

Cybele on a Roman coin as Mater Deum

Romans 1:27 is not now and never has been a reference to two men falling in love and partnering to spend their lives together. Romans 1:27 describes the lust of shrine prostitutes who used sex to worship the fertility goddess Cybele, Protectress of Rome.

Roman coins circulating in the first century depicted Cybele as Mater Deum, "mother of the gods." Inhabitants of Rome worshiped Cybele at any of five worship sites which existed in first century Rome.

Romans 1:26-27 is an integral part of Paul's argument against idolatry. Paul is most assuredly not making an argument against lesbians and gay men. No one in early church history understood Paul to be assailing two women or two men partnering together in a same sex marriage.

Instead Paul describes sexual worship of the Phrygian fertility goddess Cybele as an example of the idolatry of first century Romans.

There are many reasons why Romans 1:27 is not a general reference to homosexuality. Those reasons are given in the Links below.

1. Does Romans say that God gives gay people over to homosexuality?

2. Does likewise in Romans 1:27 equate gay sex with lesbian sex?

3. Does Romans 1:26 condemn lesbians?

4. Does Romans 1:26-27 refer to heterosexuals acting like homosexuals?

5. Can you convince me that Romans 1 is not talking about gays and lesbians?

6. Does Romans 1:26-27 condemn homosexuals?

7. How did you decide that Romans 1:26 does not condemn lesbians?

8. How can you say that Romans 1 has nothing to do with homosexuality?

9. What historical and religious context did Paul address in first century Rome?

10. Does the apology of Aristides link Romans 1 to shrine prostitution?

11. What is your proof for the link between Romans and shrine prostitution?

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Mar 16, 2019
by: Gwen

Why are you calling yourself gay Christians? If your truly born again you will abandon that lifestyle and be a Christ follower. Romans 1:27 Is referring to men burning in lust for one another and as for worshiping a temple god I'm sure Paul covered that in the scriptures but don't water down this verse to clear up your conscience, sorry it doesn't work that way. Jesus died for you because he loves you and wants you to be with him in heaven Romans 10:9.

Rick's comment: Hi Gwen - I have lots of information on this website which answers your question.

What is Romans all about?

When you assume we are not saved, because we disagree with you on the gay issue, that indicates a flaw in your thinking.

May 02, 2019
God's Word Interprets the Bible
by: Penny

Genesis 18:20
The Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom & Gomorrorah is great & their sin is wicked...
2 Peter 2:7 and if He (God) rescued Lot, a righteous man distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (Sodom)
Genesis 19:4-5 Before they had gone to bed, all the men of the city of Sodom, both young & old, surrounded the house..and said: bring those men out so we may know (have sex) with them.
The word Sodomy comes from Sodom.
God has NOT changed his mind about is sin. But if you repent & ask forgiveness, He will change your heart & make you clean.
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man that He should lie. Revelation 22:19 If any man takes away from the Words of this book (Bible) God will take away his part out of the book of life.

Rick's comment: Hi Penny - Here are some: Easy Questions About Sodom.

What must I do to be saved?

Jun 05, 2019
The Text Is Clear and Plain
by: Student of Truth

Paul never mentions Phrygian or Cybele in this passage. He references "the natural use" of women's bodies by men and vice versa. He meant human beings, not gods. He wrote of "the dishonoring of their bodies." There's no use arguing that the Bible, the Prophets, and the Apostles don't say what they say and mean what they mean. The text also states that they know the truth--which IS God--within themselves and refuse to acknowledge it. He further states,"Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them." Sharp and cutting language, but it is exactly what is happening today among those who deny the spirit of the entire first chapter of Paul's letter to Romans. It is not a justification of crimes and injustice against LGBTQ persons. It is simply what the Bible states.

Rick's comment: Hi Student of Truth - Part of learning the Bible is learning the context. Without context, we cannot understand the Bible.

On my website, I have a phrase by phrase, verse by verse commentary on Romans chapter 1. You may be interested in looking at it.

The truth about Romans 1

Oct 16, 2019
Doesn't get anymore clear
by: Dustin

Not sure how you explain off this one with goddess lust. Its so plain its ridiculous. You know you are deceiving many people straight to hell. Don't take it so metaphorical.

Rick's comment: Hi Dustin - Teaching the Bible in context doesn't send people to hell.

Part of learning the Bible is learning the context. Without context, we cannot understand the Bible.

On my website, I have a phrase by phrase, verse by verse commentary on Romans chapters 1 - 11. You may be interested in looking at it, especially Romans chapter 1.

The truth about Romans 1

Oct 23, 2019
by: Jesus Rat

I believe there are plenty of instances in the Bible where the text is not in fact the word of the Lord, but is an insert in order for the ruling parties of the time to serve some political agenda. I think this a perfect instance. All this passage does is re-enforce binary thinking, black and white thinking, about a topic that is much more nuanced than, "you are gay, therefore you are going to hell." Sexuality is a spectrum not two sides of a coin.

Rick's comment: Hi JR - It's best not to buy in to the goofy modern view that there are more than 100 genders. Biologically and scientifically, there are only two genders: male and female.

The fact that Jesus does not condemn homosexuality should carry much more weight than this specific passage.

To the other commenters up to this point. It sounds to me that you need to pray for more clarity and wisdom on the matter. Even if your stance is that being gay and Christian is wrong, and if your goal is to change peoples minds, I can’t imagine you think condemning people to hell or "throwing stones" is gonna push the needle. I personally don’t think that it's wrong, and I base that on Jesus’s teachings.

Did you know that charging interest on a loan is a sin? Why should that get a pass? It’s because we are caught up in a world that picks and chooses what they want from the Bible and then displays their "truth" as the ultimate truth, calling it God’s word. This is one of the main factors in the downfall of the church.

People are too smart and have too much information now, to let these inconsistencies perpetuated by the members of the church to go uncontested. They would rather just throw the whole thing out and not participate.

Therefore I think the one’s "condemning" more people are the one’s that spread these conservative biblicisms without backing them up with anything other than, that’s what the bible says.

Rick's comment: Christians, by definition, believe the Bible and are disciples of Jesus. Jesus didn't save us so that we can ignore the Bible and substitute our own belief system for what the Bible says.

All of this aside, Jesus saves. If we find out that homosexuality actually was a sin, he’s not gonna make people burn in hell for it. That’s not his MO.

Rick's comment: Yes indeed, Jesus saves! - What must I do to be saved?

Jesus Rat, you are dead wrong about hell. You need to follow Jesus and believe what He believes.

Jesus teaches Hell 101.

Dec 18, 2019
I see what you're saying, however
by: Scripture Reader

I 100% agree that things should be read in context. I also 100% agree that being gay does not mean someone is hell bound. The bible is clear that those who believe in Jesus, in the gospel, are saved. God knows the hearts of everyone, and he will cause the changes within everyone, in a way that he knows they can handle.

However, it is not with hidden undertones or meanings, or out of context that is says, likewise then also the males having left the natural use of the female were inflamed in the desire of them toward one another, males with males, the shame working out.

It does not say with idols, that is directly from an interlinear bible found here.

I don't say this to contend that on who is Christian, and who is not. God knows that. I'm pointing out what others have pointed out, the scripture is cut and dried in that sense.

But according to the bible, arsenkoitai, which according to strongs concordance, is a sodomite, a male engaging in same gender sexual activity, is on the list in 1 Corinthians 6:9, along with other things, like adulterers.

And we know from Jesus's teachings, that if someone looks at another with lust in their heart they have committed adultery. We ALL fall short of the glory. But it's our job to ask God to take us out of anything that goes against God and His glory.

Rick's comment: Hi Scripture Reader- I have a verse by verse commentary on Romans, available FREE, on my website.

Romans chapter one - verse by verse commentary.

Feb 10, 2020
God is purity
by: Kate

Homosexuality is listed as one of the sins that God hates, just like adultery and idol worship. Do not lie to yourselves or call evil good. He created man and woman to love each other and populate the earth. In Romans 1.27 we get a clue that there are consequences to gay immoral choices..I believe AIDS and disease is one of them...and unfortunately it carries consequences to children and families and is also passed on in immoral heterosexual sex. God put safe boundaries in place for a reason.. to protect families and children and mankind. Sodom and Gomorrah is another example of how much He hates immorality, homosexuality and all sexual uncleanness. He is good and clean and pure and wise and there are many many Biblical references against homosexuality and sex outside marriage.

Rick's comment: Hi Kate- I have a verse by verse commentary on Romans, available FREE, on my website.

Romans chapter one - verse by verse commentary.

Jun 30, 2020
Excusing sin
by: Tim

We can twist the Bible around however we want to excuse our sin. I’ve done it myself, but when Paul speaks about men lusting after other men, it’s very clear he is talking about homosexuality. Yes he talked of idol worship earlier but that’s because homosexuality was ingrained into the worship of idols (they’re both wrong)

It’s very clear Jesus and Paul were against sexual immorality (Yes, that includes homosexuality and an unmarried heterosexual couple living together) so much so that Jesus said it’s not only wrong if you do it, it’s wrong if you even think of doing it.

He set the bar of righteousness so high that we can’t reach it. Only the blood Jesus she’d on the cross can reach it. We can excuse a sinful lifestyle all we want, but the Truth remains the same.

Rick's comment: Hi Tim- Thanks for commenting. May I point out that, when I disagree with you, that doesn't mean I'm twisting the Bible around to excuse my sin.

I have a word by word, phrase by phrase, verse by verse FREE commentary on Romans, on my website. You may be surprised to discover that you agree with me, after reading it.

Why would you agree with me? Because what I write is faithful to what the Bible says and faithful to the word of God, rightly divided.

Romans chapter one - verse by verse commentary.

Jul 09, 2020
by: Bob

I have read all of your explanations of your quoted verses. It's amazing how many people today bend God's word to justify their lifestyle, not just gays.

Original interpretations of God's word are very clear that homosexual relationships are a sin, just like pride,lust,adultery, murder, etc., etc.

It is not my place to judge, that is God's role. It doesn't take God's word to realize that same sex sexual relations is completely unnatural.

But ultimately we are all sinners who need to repent. We will all face God judgement on us one day.

Jul 22, 2020
by: EC

there are many passages in many books, and you have misinterpreted them intentionally to fit your narrative. you can send all the links you like but it does not change things.

Rick's comment: Hi EC - Thanks for commenting.

"A closed mind gathers no truth." - old Etruscan proverb.

If you ever get interested in truth, I have a FREE, online, phrase by phrase, verse by verse commentary on every verse of Romans chapter 1

I hope you have the courage to read it.

Nov 12, 2020
Be very sure
by: Gaius

Rick, I appreciate the time you have spent in researching this chapter of Romans and, for that matter, the entire book of Romans - and, hopefully, the entire Bible (in a time tested translation).

We, as students of the Bible, should seek to make ourselves truly vulnerable to God's influence in our lives for good. This is especially true in areas of our lives where we are the most passionate and heavily invested in.

I once knew a Marine who seemed to have everything going for him - looks, personality, spirituality.
He had a good wife and family which he abandoned for an adulterous relationship.

I recall that Marty was in such turmoil and anguish over the hold this illicit relationship had on him.
Human relationships are both complex and powerful, and can overwhelm our ability to make wise choices.

I would just encourage you to keep studying and to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".

If God isn't the most important thing in our lives, then we will not be able to serve him well.

Also, in a situation as sensitive as this, I would encourage you to pour out your heart to God, make yourself vulnerable, and ask him to make you willing and able to accept WHATEVER he has for you.

If, by chance, you are unsure of your salvation, you need to settle this question first before you can advance.

We are ALL sinful in that we have not followed God perfectly.

I am reminded of an old hymn that says it pretty well:

In Times Like These

In times like these you need a Savior,
In times like these you need an anchor;
Be very sure, be very sure,
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!

This Rock is Jesus, Yes He's the One,
This Rock is Jesus, the only One;
Be very sure, be very sure,
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!

In times like these you need the Bible,
In times like these, O be not idle;
Be very sure, be very sure,
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!

In times like these I have a Savior,
In times like these I have an anchor;
I'm very sure, I'm very sure
My anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!

Rick, what I will end with is that ALL of us need Christ and should allow the Holy Spirit of God to mold us into useful servants.

Eternity is a long time and "only one life, 'twill soon be past, only what's done for Christ will last".

Rick's comment: Hello Gaius- You have an odd, passive-aggressive approach.

You appreciate the time I've spent studying Romans but you believe we should make ourselves vulnerable (even truly vulnerable) to God, as if I have not, especially in areas about which we are passionate.

Then you segue to an anecdote about your friend Marty who committed adultery. You conclude that I should keep studying hard, as if I haven't, all the while ignoring everything I wrote in the article upon which you didn't comment.

Then, incongruously, you suggest that perhaps I am unsure of my salvation.

Then you say that, All of us need Christ, as if you think I may not be saved.

You close with, All of us should allow the Holy Spirit to mold us into useful servants, and, Eternity is a long time, suggesting that I am not saved (because I disagree with you on Romans 1:27).

That is a classic passive - aggressive response without addressing any facts, without citing any facts, without even attempting to deal with what Romans 1:27 says, in context.

That is also a subtle, ad hominem argument, questioning my salvation and my spirituality, instead of dealing with biblical facts.

When a man cannot deal with facts, he deals in innuendo, as you have done.

What must I do to be saved?

Feb 03, 2021
by: David

The "context" that you attempt to lay at the feet of temple worship and the sexual transgression associated with it is incorrect. Chapter 1 is by and large an indictment of the general condition of men's(women's) souls more specific, the sin nature in all of mankind to include the homosexual nature of both genders in relation to sins affect on the soul of mankind.

I know it is often argued that translators of previous centuries have gotten this all wrong but we do have fairly accurate concordances that even the most lay person can use to see exactly what the original author meant. Your argument falls short of truth

Rick's comment: Hi David- Thanks for commenting. I notice that your comment does not in any way respond to the facts I presented.

Instead, you presented your opinion, unsupported by any facts. I understand why you do that - You don't have any facts to present.

Mar 10, 2021
God desires truth
by: Yvonne Valentine

It’s sad how men meaning mankind will try and water down Gods Holy Word to contour their life style. I get we all have sin do sin and will sin until the day Jesus return. Some of the ways we live may be lies, but Gods word is the truth. He plainly states don’t add or take anything away from His word. It’s plainly say men burned with lust for other men and woman turned away from their natural way of having sex.

Let’s call it what it is homosexuality is just that , a lie is a lie not a white lie, a murder is a murder, a thief is a thief l. Besides you don’t have to sugar coat it for us we don’t have a heaven or hell to put you in it’s between you and God.

Rick's comment: Hi Yvonne- Thanks for commenting. I notice that, like David, the previous commenter, your comment does not in any way respond to the facts I presented.

Instead, you presented your opinion, unsupported by any facts. I understand why you do that - You don't have any biblical facts to present.

May 15, 2021
How I see it
by: Jay

The Bible says, "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14). A person can be intellectually qualified and educationally equipped to read and understand the Bible, but if his heart is not spiritually alive then he will fail to truly benefit from reading the Bible.

The interpretation of Scripture is not a magical or mysterious process, because Scripture was written in the ordinary language of the day. Sometimes seminary students have a false impression that when they come to seminary they will be given some "secret tools" for getting hidden meaning from the text that other people couldn’t find there. But this is not true, because the Bible was written for ordinary people, and it was written in the ordinary language of the people to whom it was first given.

That is why Moses could command all the people of Israel, "These words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise" (Deut. 6:6–7).

That means that when we are seeking to understand the Bible, we are not seeking some secret "new revelation" that will give us better insight into the text.

They way you came to your conclusion, I see what connection you're trying to make, but majority of your explanation requires this background knowledge that I don't think the ordinary person would generally have (if that makes sense.)

Rick's comment: Hi Jay- Thanks for commenting. Your comment does not respond to the facts I presented.

Instead, you ignored the facts and presented your opinion, about secret knowledge, perhaps acquired at seminary.

Every Christian should obey 2 Timothy 2:15 in the King James Bible.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

May 23, 2021
Bias Interpretation of Clear Text
by: Jason

The text is very clear. It is referencing homosexuality. Only someone truly bias could not see what this scripture clearly says. All one needs to do is read the following scripture without any outside influence or biases.

Rom. 1:26 "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (notice how it says; leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men..." Can this really mean anything different than what it is clearly saying? This website's interpretation of Rom.1:27 is heresy.

Remember 2 Tim.4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." (Notice "but according to their own desires")

I am not singling out one sin as you will see below, but this is deception and a very costly deception. It is corruption of clear doctrine.

Note the following sins in the following scripture;

1 Cor. 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. Notice; "Do not be deceived."

Rick's comment: Hi Jason- Thanks for commenting. Your comment does not respond to the facts I presented.

The words, homosexuals and sodomites, were not used by Paul when he wrote 1 Corinthians 6:9.

Those words were added by translators less than 75 years ago. The Greek words Paul used,malakoi and arsenokoitai, are defined at these links.

What does arsenokoitai mean?

What does malakoi mean?

Every Christian should obey 2 Timothy 2:15 in the King James Bible.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Aug 26, 2021
Great to meet you all
by: Jesus Saved Me

I commend you for your work although I can not say that I completely agree with you on everything you say.
I can say that God is good and He is merciful in everyway - especially for an (ex) lost sinner like myself.
I am excited that you are studying the Word and encouraged by your knowledge of context.
I pray that the God who gives understanding and knowledge without prejudice will enlighten us ALL unto the fullness of the knowledge of God.

Sep 30, 2021
Homosexuality = unnatural
by: Micheal

I put my trust in Christ when I was 14 years old. I strayed from the Word for 35 years until recently being convicted by the Holy Spirit to get into church and join a disciple group.

I believe the Bible is truth and can be interpreted many ways and that's why we have multiple denominations. People argue over speaking in tongues or whether women should wear pants in church or whether drinking alcohol is okay.

We agree that this Bible is a book of how we should live and is wholly inspired by God, 2 Tim 3:16.

But yet you argue on Romans 1:27 and whether the Bible says homosexuality is wrong. You are correct though about the word Homosexual not being in Strong's concordance but it does have the word natural in Greek. It point blank says "natural"

Rick's comment: Hi Micheal- Thanks for commenting. I am glad you are saved, that you have come back to the Lord and that you are living as a disciple of our risen Savior, King Jesus, Matthew 25:33-34.

I have a phrase by phrase, verse by verse online commentary on Romans FREE on this website. Please take time to read my comments on Romans 1:25-28.

Romans 1

What I believe and teach about Romans is easy to read and it's pretty easy to see if I'm going by what the Bible says in context.

Do you think that men having sexual relations with men is natural? Anal sex, oral sex, pornography, masturbation are not natural. I am assuming a gay man is having one of these types of relations correct?

Rick's comment: Anal sex has, for thousands of years, been a heterosexual method of birth control. In plainer words, anal sex isn't an exclusively gay thing.

Oral sex isn't an exclusively gay thing either. Lots of conservative heterosexual Christians do that.

Pornography and sex outside of marriage and other sexual sins are common among conservative heterosexual professing Christians and evangelicals.

Isn't it all about sex for you gays and lesbians?

How can I break the porn addiction?

To single out unsaved gay men, as you do, while ignoring the tsunami of heterosexual sin in conservative and evangelical professing Christian circles is kind of strange.

Why not stick to what the Bible actually says in context, in Romans 1, instead of trying to switch the topic to sex, when professing Christian heterosexuals are already drifting in a swirling tsunami of sexual sin?

If I look at a woman in lust and married Jesus says that I have already committed adultery in my heart and that I should pluck out my eye... Don't you think a man in a sexual relationship with a man would be wrong as well?

Jesus was talking to bearded, circumcised, pork-abstaining, law keeping, Moses following, sacrifice offering, temple worshiping,

heterosexual Jewish men, His own disciples, living in the land of Israel, living under the law of Moses, before the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ.

Those hetero Jewish men had a problem with sexual lust, as Jesus pointed out, Matthew 5:1-2, 27-29.

But keep in mind, Jesus isn't giving the plan of salvation for Christians in Matthew 5.

Matthew 5-7 is the charter of the Kingdom of Heaven IF Israelite Jews will accept Jesus as their Messiah, Matthew 11:14 - IF.

If you've read the New Testament, you know that national Israel rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as their Messiah and cried out, Crucify him, crucify him. They didn't accept Jesus as their Messiah.

Do you really think that today, 2021, if YOU plucked out YOUR right eye, that that would solve YOUR lust problem or keep YOU out of hell?

In the dispensation of the grace of God, salvation is not by works.

Brother I have to end in this, 2 Timothy 3:16 also states being corrected. Rebuke. I hope you take it at that and not anything else. This is clearly a rebuke or correction.

Every Christian, whether gay or heterosexual, should memorize and obey 2 Timothy 2:15 in the King James Bible and then apply it every time they read the Bible.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Dec 01, 2021
Professing to be wise?
by: Gregory

Romans 1:21-22
King James Version
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

It appears that trying to justify homosexuality is causing you to not see God for His true nature. You have become vain in your imaginations and your foolish heart has been darkened. You profess to be wise in Scripture, but you became a fool in the process. Ps.14-1 states,"The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God."
Rom. 1 26-27 is plain and simple. I pray that the Holy Spirit will open your heart and your eyes to the truth. Because you are holding firm on your stance on homosexuality, this may mean that you are unsaved and have been turned over to a reprobate mind. Beware!! Your very soul is in danger and I'm saying all this in love. I love you too much to not warn you. Again, BEWARE!!! Satan is controlling your thinking.

Dec 01, 2021
What are you saying then?
by: Greg

Are you saying that homosexuality is acceptable to God? Are you saying that homosexuality is natural? Are you saying that homosexuality is an option granted by God Almighty? If you believe this then state it and back it up with Scripture.

Rick's comment: Hi Greg / Gregory- Thanks for commenting. I was asked: How do you interpret Romans 1:27?

I gave a brief answer here but I also have more than 1000 pages of verse by verse commentary online covering the first 12 chapters of Romans.

Romans Commentary

Are you aware that, when we disagree about Romans 1, that doesn't mean:

a. that I am unsaved or,
b. that I have a reprobate mind.

To answer your questions:

Yes, homosexuality is a natural variation designed by God and perfectly acceptable to God.

I have this website with 2000 pages of carefully documented information dealing with the topic of homosexuality and the Bible.

How about you finding verses - back it up with scripture - which, in context, condemn homosexuality.

Remember, you need to find IN CONTEXT verses which are talking about two gay men or two gay women spending their lives together as a couple.

Can you find any scriptures which mention that and condemn that?

Please let me know what you find.

Every Christian should obey 2 Timothy 2:15 in the King James Bible.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." - KJV

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