How can immoral homosexual relationships be Christlike?
by Pastor Bruce
Do you believe Abraham and Sarah
You've asked an interesting question about the morality of gay relationships. I respond by challenging your basic assumptions in the hope that you will consider the inconsistency of your beliefs.
Have you ever studied Biblical Analogies for modern gay and lesbian partnerships? Did you know that God richly blessed some relationships in the Old Testament which are not accepted by Christians today? You believe that homosexual relationships are immoral. So here's my question for you Pastor Bruce.
were in an immoral relationship?
Before you answer, remember that there is absolutely nothing in the Bible which leads us to conclude that God considered their marriage relationship immoral or outside the bounds of propriety. In fact, three times the Bible refers to Abraham as the friend of God, 2 Chronicles 20:7; Isaiah 41:8; James 2:23. Abraham married his half-sister Sarah, Genesis 20:2, 12, and enjoyed a blessed lifelong sexual relationship with her, Genesis 17:6-19.
Instead of forcing them to end their incestuous sexual relationship, as many modern Christian Pharisees would do, God blessed Abraham and Sarah's brother-sister marriage with Isaac, the son they longed for and made an everlasting covenant with Abraham and his descendants, Genesis 17:7, 19, because their relationship was culturally appropriate back then.
Abraham was also married to Hagar and had a son by her, Genesis 16:3-11. Consider the facts. Abraham and Sarah were in an incestuous polygamous marriage which God blessed. After Sarah died Abraham married Keturah. In addition to her, Abraham fathered children by concubines and left an inheritance to those legally recognized children, Genesis 25:1-6, because those relationships were culturally appropriate back then.Do you believe Abraham was immoral?
Do you believe God was immoral for blessing Abraham and Sarah's forbidden marriage?Do you believe King David was immoral?
David was a bisexual
polygamist who spent fifteen years in committed relationship with Jonathan. In addition to Jonathan, David had at least eight wives
whose names are listed in the Bible. In addition to those wives, God gave David all of King Saul's wives, 2 Sam 3:2-5, 13-14, 11:27, 12:7-8, 19:5, 1 Chron 14:3, because those relationships were culturally appropriate back then. In addition to his many wives, King David also had concubines because those relationships were culturally appropriate back then, 2 Samuel 5:13.
In the context of Old Testament family values
, where polygamy was culturally accepted, the Bible does not view polygamy
and men with concubines as adulterers or immoral.
We know that polygamy, a man having more than one wife, was affirmed and blessed in the Old Testament, according to Genesis 4:19, 16:3-4, 29:20-28, 30:4-9, Deuteronomy 21:15-17, 2 Samuel 12:7-8, where God Himself affirms polygamy and 2 Chronicles 24:2-3, where the Holy Spirit affirms polygamy by implication.
Most conservative anti-gay Christians do not view Abraham, Jacob and King David as adulterers even though they were polygamists with multiple spouses plus concubines. The reason is that those relationships were culturally accepted and culturally appropriate back then.
Was God immoral for giving David additional wives when he already had at least eight wives? If Abraham and Sarah were not immoral, if God was not immoral for blessing them with a son, if King David was not immoral, if God was not immoral for giving Saul's wives to David, Why do you insist that
homosexuals in general are immoral?
Much of what people believe about marriage and immoral relationships has little to do with what the Bible says in context. Instead much of what we believe about marriage is based on culture. In Muslim and some tribal cultures, polygamy is still considered acceptable today. Some relationships were culturally acceptable in the Old Testament which are not culturally acceptable now and vice versa.
If God could bless a brother-sister marriage like Abraham and Sarah,
if God could bless polygamous marriages, why do you struggle to believe that God can bless committed gay and lesbian marriages?
You have no verse of scripture in either testament which, in context, says what you so fervently believe about gays. Is it possible that you are wearing the sandals of the scribes and Pharisees, "making the word of God of none effect by your tradition?"
Is it possible that you are grieving the heart of God by refusing to affirm the committed partnerships of your gay brothers and lesbian sisters? Jesus is unmistakably clear in Matthew 7:12 that we are to treat others with the same loving regard as we would like to be treated. Paul is crystal clear in Romans 13:9-10 and Galatians 5:14, that loving one's neighbor fulfills the law.
Pastor Bruce, I believe you and God have a major disagreement which you need to iron out with Him. The wonderfully gracious God of the Bible is as kindly disposed and as gracious to gay and lesbian Christians as He was to Abraham and Sarah and to David and his many wives.
I hope you will obey 2 Timothy 2:15 and "study to shew yourself approved unto God..."
by providing scriptural answers to these questions, using verses in context instead of wresting verses out of context to prove your tradition. Isolating a verse from its context and insisting it means something it didn't mean in context is a pretext for teaching lies. Looking forward to hearing from you. Please remember:
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what it did not mean THEN.
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