Gays are immoral and unspiritual, not real Christians.
by Sam J.
Thanks for honestly sharing your heart and your beliefs. Sam's original email is at the bottom of this page. I think many Christians view things the way you do because, to be painfully honest, they are ignorant. They don't know what the Bible says in context because they never study the Bible in context. They don't know any real Christians who are gay because their idea of spirituality has never grown beyond the "I'm right and you're wrong" phase. I hope you are ready to read the answer of a soul-winning gay conservative Christian.
Gays are immoral
Some gays definitely are immoral just as some heterosexuals are immoral. So what? Name any group - preachers, Sunday School teachers, soul-winners - and some of them are immoral. That means they are fallible human beings. To dismiss all gay Christians as immoral is silly. Some gay Christians live clean Godly celibate lives. Do you?
Before you throw stones of judgment at gay Christians, please acquaint yourself with the sexual immorality
of many conservative born again evangelical Christians. I hope you are shocked by their sinful loose living and immoral porn-filled lifestyles.
Did you know that polls show 79 out of 100 hetero single Christians are having sex without being married? Did you know that 50 out of 100 men in conservative evangelical churches are wrestling with porn addiction? Did you know that 65 out of 100 abortions in the USA are performed on Christian Protestants and/or Roman Catholics? Those are the two most vehemently anti-gay groups. And yet you've got time to attack the morality of gay Christians?
Gays encourage sinful living
Anti-gay Christians love to quote diatribes from Dr. Paul Cameron and the Family Research Institute, against gays to prove our wickedness. Does it ever occur to you guys to check out what your champions really believe? Cameron is the guy your side cites to prove that gay men on average die at age 42. Or that gay men have 500 to 1000 sex partners. Why aren't you aware of what a hedonistic nut Dr. Cameron really is? Have you read Cameron's sex-crazed 1978 book, Sexual Gradualism?
In Sexual Gradualism,
Dr. Cameron teaches Christian parents to promote seven levels of sexual intimacy
for children and teens.
Level 1 Being near someone you like, lightly brushing against him, touching and smelling.
Level 2 Holding hands, touching arms, hugging.
Level 3 Kissing.
Level 4 Breast fondling, manipulating, sucking, kissing and so on.
Level 5 is mutual hand exploration of the genitals including mutual masturbation, touching, rubbing.
Level 6 is total nudity, perhaps in a shower or bathtub, accompanied by such things as physical stimulation.
Level 7 is oral sex, that is, kissing of the genitals, etc.
Level 8 is the final level of sexual intimacy, sexual intercourse, which is reserved for marriage.
Dr. Paul Cameron, the go to guy for anti-gay Christians is on record advocating sexual intimacy at Levels 1-7 for unmarried teens. Wouldn't it be wise for you anti-gay Christians to get your own house in order before you attack gay morality? Isn't it time to kick Cameron and his off-the-wall beliefs to the curb?
Gay Christians don't try
to win cultists to Christ
That is probably true of many gay Christians and it's also true of most non-gay Christians. But that is more a result of post-modernism and the slowly slithering serpent of false teaching in the emergent church
than being gay. Your own anti-gay Christian crowd is more focused on porn, sex and getting abortions
than on winning cultists to Christ.
Liberty University bills itself as the largest Christian University on earth, with more than 92,000 students. LU is viewed as a bastion of Christian orthodoxy yet their Chancellor, Jerry Falwell Jr, lacks the moral courage
to take a public stand and call Mormonism what it is, a non-Christian cult. Please watch the video on Liberty's website and see for yourself.
What causes Christian leaders to morph into mealy-mouthed religious politicians? And what causes you Sam and other Christians to ignore Liberty University's refusal to call Mormonism a cult (if they don't view Mormonism as a cult, then they aren't trying to evangelize Mormons), while you attack gay Christians for not evangelizing cultists?
Sam, I hope you will read this page carefully and visit the pages I've text linked. It is time to examine your heart and find out why you are so focused on attacking the gay community.
Sam's original email: Return to Gay Christian FAQ
"I believe gays are immoral and unspiritual, not real Christians. Gays are spiritual pretenders. You claim to be saved and live like the devil. You claim to be Christian but never stand for righteousness. You encourage others to live wicked lives. You never try to win the unsaved to Christ. Gays never even try to win cultists to Christ. You never take a stand for Biblical morality. Gays are fake Christians, not real Christians. I know you won't publish this but I hope you read it and honestly think about how you live. Love in Christ, Sam J."
Will you explain
how to get saved?
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