Gay marriages can't produce children so case closed, right?

by Name withheld
(but you know who you are)

Rick Brentlinger Answers -

That's a very interesting question. Let's look at it from a scriptural viewpoint.

Does the Bible forbid
barren women and sterile men
from getting married?

Certainly not. Abraham and Sarah were married for about 70 years before God blessed them with children. God did not regard Abraham and Sarah being unable to produce children as an impediment to their long and happy marriage, Genesis 12:3ff.

There are seven barren women in the Bible, six of whom eventually were blessed by God to bare (1 Samuel 1:20, KJV) a child. Its interesting to note that each of these once barren women produced male children.

  1. Sarah
  2. Rebekah
  3. Rachel
  4. Sampson's mother
  5. Hannah
  6. Michal, David's wife (never had children)
  7. Elizabeth, mother of John Baptist

Gay marriages can't produce children
so case closed, right?

Not so fast pal. Let's take the time to think it through. Nowhere does scripture reserve marriage only for those who are capable of reproducing. If marriage was only for those who can produce children, then older folks who are past child-bearing could not marry.

Are you willing to prohibit senior citizens from marrying simply because they cannot have children?

If marriage was only for those who can produce children, then barren women and sterile men could not marry.

Are you willing to prohibit barren women or sterile men from marrying simply because they cannot have children?

You see, the problem for you really isn't that two men or two women cannot biologically reproduce by themselves. The problem for you is that you don't like the idea of gay marriage.

So, you're drawing a false conclusion - that married folks must produce children or its not a legitimate marriage when really, that's not what you believe at all.

Thankfully God doesn't make the claim and the Bible never makes the claim that only folks who can produce biological children are allowed to marry.

Your real problem seems to be an unloving, unChristlike heart. You are so focused on "proving" that God wouldn't bless a same sex marriage that you employ faulty logic to support your false assertion.

What does the Bible say?

"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." -Isaiah 8:20, KJV

"Owe nothing to any one except mutual love; for he who loves his fellow man has satisfied the demands of Law."
-Romans 13:8, Weymouth

"Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." -Romans 13:10, NIV

For Christians, "the law of liberty," James 1:25, includes treating our brothers and sisters as we would like to be treated. Jesus said: ""Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." - Luke 6:31, NASB

How many non-gay Christians refuse to consider the needs of their gay brothers and lesbian sisters? Isn't it about time you started obeying the Jesus you profess to love and serve?

Gays CAN have children

Many gay male couples and many lesbian female couples have children. How did they accomplish that allegedly impossible task? Some of them entered heterosexual marriage because they were told that getting married would cure them of being gay.

They found little emotional, physical, psychological, romantic or spiritual attraction in their opposite sex partner and for the good of both individuals, they ended the marriage and now share the parenting of their biological children.

Some gays and lesbians who were wise enough not to marry a heterosexual partner have children in other ways.

How gays can have children

  1. Surrogacy - is a way of reproduction in which a woman agrees to get pregnant and provide a child for someone else.

  2. In-Vitro fertilization - involves fertilizing an egg outside the womb and then implanting the fertilized egg into the prospective mother's womb. Many non-gay couples use this method to have children, as do some gay and lesbian couples. Gay couples combine Surrogacy with In-Vitro fertilization.

  3. Adoption - involves taking a child into one's family through legal means and then raising that child as one's own child. Adoption has a long and honored history in the Bible.

Adoption is a Godly option

A. Eli, the apparently widowed, elderly Priest of Israel, as the informal adoptive father chosen by Samuel's mother, raised young Samuel to become the great, character-driven Priest-Prophet of Israel, 1 Samuel 1:28, 2:20, 26, 35, 3:1ff.

B. Christians are described as adopted into the family of God, Ephesians 1:5

C. Joseph was the adoptive father of Jesus, Luke 2:27, 33, 41

D. True religion isn't necessarily procreation but instead, is defined as "to look after orphans," James 1:27, NIV, which often includes adoption.

Wouldn't it be a shame if thoughtless heterosexual Christians, in their zeal to press the letter of the law upon their gay brothers and lesbian sisters, instead drove them away from the Savior who longs to save and bless them?

David and Jonathan were probably an intimately partnered, same sex couple.

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Oct 02, 2009
Ignorance is alive and well!
by: Dorothy

...and surviving beautifully with its ingrown kinfolk -- hatred, bigotry, and arrogance. What an incredibly ignorant, stone-age question.

Jun 11, 2013
homosexuals cannot produce offspring....PERIOD!
by: Anonymous

correct me if im wrong - can two same sex humans have sexual intercourse and produce children? NO they can't!

show me ONE case where a man has had sex with another man and somehow one got pregnant and had offspring.

show me ONE case where a woman has had sex with another woman , got pregnant and had offspring.

it doesnt exist because you have to have sperm and an egg to make a human. this would tell me that for LIFE to continue you have to have a union between a man and woman. PERIOD

all this crap you are arguing about - adoption, fertilization, and a gay having sex with a hetero to have a child, it is deflecting from the original question - "Gay marriage cant PRODUCE children so case closed, right?" Case closed is right! two people of the same sex cannot have offspring!!!! ARGUE THAT!!!!!!

Rick's comment: Can two sterile heterosexuals have sexual intercourse and produce children? No they can't! A sterile heterosexual man or woman cannot produce offspring, so they should not be allowed to get married so case closed, right?

Can two elderly heterosexuals have sexual intercourse and produce children? NO they can't! An elderly man and woman cannot produce offspring so they should not be allowed to get married so case closed, right?

Yet you think it is okay for THEM to marry.

I'm beginning to see your logic. It isn't really about producing children with you. You just don't like gays and this is something you can use to express your dislike under the guise of being biblical.

Jun 14, 2015
Gay Marriages can't produce children
by: John

Who said anything about being sterile is a prerequisite to marriage? The point here is a biological one. Go and get married but the fact remains you can have same sex intercourses all you want, but that won't result in any baby. You don't need any bible to tell you that. You can argue the toss but this fact won't change.

Rick's comment: Hi John - No one said: being sterile is a prerequisite for marriage. You simply misread or misunderstood the argument. Many anti-gay arguments are not real arguments.

They are fake arguments so the anti-gay christian appears to be making a biblical argument, which allows them to hid their bigotry behind the Bible.

Jun 27, 2015
The point
by: Michelle

Removing the bible from all of this, the point that this person is making and myself is that biologically speaking the love of 2 homosexuals can not bring forth life. The entire human race would die off if men did not mate with women. How can there not be something wrong with that?

Rick's comment: Hi Michelle - 95% of the human race is heterosexual. About 5% of the human race is gay, lesbian and transgender.

The 95% who are heterosexual are not getting gay married and probably, most of the 5% who are gays and lesbians and transgendered are not getting gay married. Therefore, there is absolutely no possibility that the human race is in danger of dying out. That makes sense, right?

Jun 28, 2015
by: Marcus

I think people who are gay are some of the nicest people, also some of the I want to get attention poeole. I believe in god and I dint understand how to people can go to church praise God, then leave church and continue to sin in purpose. Not sense to battle the temptation, at least make an effort to fight it. Reading your article some of your points are completely flawed. You used "love" as a Christians should respect their counter parts needs? Seriously. That's like saying we should support a crack heads love for drugs. I noticoed you didn't add the bible says a man shouldn't lay with another man. Of course not, didn't expect to. I actually like gay people, people of all types. You being gay is not who you are, me being straight is not who I am. Your color is not who you are. It's the "sin" that people. You aren't born gay or straight all these are choices. You can be single the rest of your and love God. Saying gays can have children, yet using side examples. Can you physically have a child with your blood type, personality, or your chromosomes.. pretty sure you can't. Straight peoeple can however. Hell the only reason you exist is because of a man and a woman created you. All sin is wrong, hence Jesus said he loves all of us right, just hates the sin. Same thing Christians view. Hate the sin, not you as a person. Can the be judge mental? Yes, the sure as hell can. But don't sit here and mention parts of the bible, but not willing to mention parts that clearly say marriage should be with a man and woman. As well as its a sin to sleep with the same sex.

Rick's comment: Hi Marcus - Thanks for taking time to settle that for us.

Jun 28, 2015
LGBT statistics
by: Aaron Saltzer

Where do you get your statistics from? I heard that the statistics are different for each one.

Rick's comment: Hi Aaron - statistics vary from the 2% or 3% range up to 10% so I use a conservative middle figure of 5%.

Sep 11, 2017
Natural childbirth and same sex couples
by: Mike

The question to consider is. If Homosexuality is considered to be normal and natural why is it that children can not be produced from the sexual union.

If the first Human beings on this Earth Had Been homosexuals, the Human race would very soon have died out. Because a way of life is socially acceptable, and at the moment almost "fashionable", does not make it Natural.

All people are beautiful, regardless of sexuality,
All are equal, regardless of their sexual tastes.
or chosen life styles. Nature however has decided that children are produced from Male-Female Unions.

Evolution tells us that this is the natural way forward. A Same sex coupling is obviously natural for them, But not natural for the production of children, and nothing can change that fact.

Jul 31, 2019
by: Dorian

There is a role for all things, as there is a season for all things. That is your answer Mike.

Vanity of vanities! All is vanity.
Is any of these things new? No, including the hate and ignorance of man. Man who would beat the slaves while their Master is away, who stop the children from coming to Him.

Trying to make a good show in the flesh, trying to compel others to be circumcised. For even those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised so they may boast.

The body of Christ is many parts, the arms the legs the eyes. It may be, that the part which is the womb lacks the arms to carry the child. Perhaps your lgbt brothers and sisters are those arms, for the arms were not made to birth but to carry.

All people are beautiful, but I will condemn them to Hell.
All people are equal, so shall I condemn them all equally.

Righteousness tells us that this is how it must be, for all have sinned and fall short the glory of God. We do not worship the creation, but the Creator. Therefore far be it from me to judge another pot the Potter has made. One is made for the purpose of children, and another is made to rescue the child from death and the devil.

Furthermore, praise be that God through the wisdom of Christ Jesus has reconciled us together, to be a loving family in Heaven. Adopted, grafted in, though it was not natural.

It was not natural.

But such a thing was done and given! Which confounds the 'wise' and strikes fear into my heart. For I know that many will come in Christ's name, professing to follow Him, saying "Lord Lord", yet He never knew them.

The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, and how terrifying such a prospect should be; that with a hard heart in ignorance and a lack of knowledge are we all destroyed.

The humble don't speak; they seek.
The Shepherd doesn't hurt us; He Heals us.

God bless in Christ Jesus, seek and you will find.

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