If we know that homosexuality is sin, shouldn't we speak the truth?

by Howard
(Hampton VA)

Rick Brentlinger Answers

Your question is based on a false premise, that according to the Bible, homosexuality is sin. You claim to know that homosexuality is sin when the Bible never makes that claim.

I have dealt with the "homosexuality is sin" issue on several hundred pages of this website so I will only answer briefly here.

Every verse of scripture is given in historical and cultural context. The only way you can thoughtfully conclude that homosexuality is sin is by ignoring the context of the verses on which you base your false conclusion.

If you are genuinely interested in truth, click on the NavBar buttons and read honest, faithful to scripture explanations of the clobber passages. If that due diligence raises additional questions, feel free to ask those questions.

May God bless you in your study.

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May 27, 2009
by: Anonymous

1 corithians 6:9 read it over and over again

Rick's comment: Hey Anon - we did far more than read it over and over. We studied it intensively and reported our findings on this website. If you ever move beyond merely reading the Bible trying to find proof-texts against gays and actually start studying what you read, 2 Timothy 2:15, you will again start to grow spiritually.

Aug 25, 2009
Guilt - which Bible is the best for us?
by: Anonymous

I used to also feel guilty and ashamed when I read 1 Cor 6:9. My NIV version uses the word "homosexual offenders".

Rick, what's your view on this?!

Rick's comment: I've never been a fan because the NIV leaves out too many words, phrases, verses. For English speaking people, the old KJV is absolutely the best.

Sep 21, 2009
Perpetuating the hate
by: Anonymous

Considering that "homosexual" wasn't even a word until the late 1800's, it's obvious that liberties are being taken with the way certain Bibles are being translated.

Sep 22, 2009
Putting 'homosexual' in 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10 is mistranslation, plain and simple
by: Anonymous

Its a mistranslation to insert the word, homosexual, into 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10.

The Greek word, arsenokoites, does not mean homosexual.

Jun 09, 2012
1 Corinthians 12:20
by: jessica

i love how people can say things bad about homosexuality but they don't seem to see sexual immorality under it. 1 Corinthians 12-20.

1 Corinthians 9-11 read the whole thing people
"do you know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of god? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders arsenokoitai,
nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of god. And that is what some of you WERE. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our god."

i am a homosexual woman who loves Jesus and God as much as any other loyal servant should. When Jesus died he died for all of us not just straight people. Read everything not just a line or two that's not how it works. God bless everyone who believes or doesn't i am not here to judge that is gods job and also a commandment.

Aug 24, 2012
ex-gay man
by: Anonymous

I am born again. I lived a gay lifestyle openly from age 18-24. Its been 11 yrs since I denied myself and I followed Christ Jesus. I speak with peace and love when I say this. Homosexuality is a sin. Where does the root of it come from? Pagan practices. We are sinful by nature. We will do what we want to do. Sex is a gift from God unto married people. Man and woman. People have sex now a days and are not married. So, does that make it ok now, because we are not living in bible days? God revealed to me through a personal experience that I had to let go of that lifestyle and I did. I had to renounce that spirit and it did flee me when I called on the blood of Jesus with my all, wanting that unclean spirit out! Later I received the holy spirit. Why should I fight God with me me me me. Its God's will not mine. Written "The flesh cannot please God" I minister to homosexuals when they ask. The Holy spirit moves me to speak the right words. God chose me to be a light and share my testimony. I know ex-gays God redeemed. When we are in a humble state, God speaks. Before God spoke to me I was going to look for a gay church. God had other plans. I encourage you to ask God to take away your pride and let him speak to your heart. Pray, fast and read the bible. Ask for the holy spirit. When you come to the Lord its his will not our will anymore. Written "Many are called few are chosen" written "deny yourself and follow me" God bless you with knowledge and wisdom. In Jesus name. Amen!

Rick's comment: If Jesus helped you stop being promiscuous and helped you quit a life of slavery to alcohol and drugs, then I praise God with you for His marvelous grace. I am SO glad you are saved and living for Jesus instead of for yourself.

Yet I must tell you honestly, I doubt what you've written above. If Jesus really changed you from homosexual to heterosexual, why are you hiding and commenting Anonymously? Wouldn't it glorify God more to be open and honest about your identity?

Even Allan Chambers, President of Exodus International, stated in an August 2012 interview that he still battles same sex attraction, even after being married for 15 years to a woman. The point is, God NEVER promises to change anyone's sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is an immutable aspect of humanity.

I get so many emails from conman christians who lack the guts to put their real name with their comments and I always wonder why? What are they trying to hide and who are they trying to kid?

Sep 30, 2012
The Mistake I See in Your Logic
by: Terry

As Pastor Rick said, homosexuality, heterosexuality or bi-sexuality is an inate part of our humanity - just as race, gender, eye color and hair color. Our sexual orientation is not a choice.

You say you have walked away from your homosexual identity. It is possible that you have a gift of celibacy or that you are actually bi-sexual. Many bi-sexuals who find a greater attraction to their own gender self-identify as homosexual, so it is not to difficult to understand how you may know some 'ex-gay' people who have adopted a heterosexual life.

If, however, you are claiming that homosexuals are 'healed' and made heterosexual by God, the evidence is overwhelmingly against you. Psychologists today agree that sexual orientation is not changeable, and that attempts to force change can be very damaging psychologically and emotionally to a person. Many gay people have committed suicide because they could not manifest a promised sexual orientation change promised by religious groups.

I attended a seminar by the two first Ex-gay directors, who eventually realized that neither they or anyone else in their outreach had ever changed sexual orientation. The two men finally divorced their wives and became life partners.

I personally am a Pentacostal and believe wholehartedly in healing and other spiritual gifts. I have prayed for people who were ill or critically injured and they were healed. Yet I have never seen a homosexual changed to heterosexual. In fact, I now realize that our homosexuality is part of God's creation and has a purpose.

For you personally, I am thankful that you seem to be happy and fulfilled in your (I assume) celibacy. But let's not forget that God realized that Adam was alone and said it was not good and created a help-meet. One of the great lessons we are to learn in this earthly life is to love others deeply. A life-partner affords one of the best means of learning to love, forgive and sacrifice for another.

Rick's comment: Excellent Terry. Thanks for adding to the conversation!

Oct 08, 2012
by: Anonymous

All sin is wrong including homosexuality. You spin the scripture to fit your lifestyle. Genesis 2:21-25
talks about Adam and Eve. God says repent and sin no more. We are given free will by God. Being saved by no means does not give the okay to sin continually or use it as and excuse. You are leading people down a path of Satan. You will be judged by God for this.

Rick's comment: It is time for you to obey 2 Timothy 2:15 and begin interpreting scripture in context. Doing so will help you find many truths you have obviously missed. God bless as you read, memorize and obey 2 Timothy 2:15. Many thanks for stopping by.

Dec 23, 2021
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13
by: Jennifer

I wasn’t sure where on your website to comment this but I thought you and other queer Christians might find this interesting. If you look at the Biblehub concordance of the word zakar as found in both Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 and you scroll down through the whole list you see it has been translated as male child or boy in some verses,

namely Gen 17:10, Gen 17:12, Gen 17:14, Leviticus 12:2, Isa 66:7 and Jeremiah 20:15. This is interesting considering Martin Luther in his 1534 Lutherbibel translate Lev 18:22 and 20:13 as referring to consensual pederasty, possibly of the type Philo referenced in his Special Laws III. IV 37-42 that we know went on in the ancient world because of Philo.

So we have objective evidence that not only the same word that appears in these verses can mean male child in other verses but also have been interpreted that way in some non English Bible translations. Yes I did check the verses with a native German speaker and she confirmed they were referring to pederasty/ paedophilia

Rick's comment: Hi Jennifer- That’s an interesting view but I believe it is a mistake to cite Genesis 17:10, 12, 14, Leviticus 12:2, Isaiah 66:7 and Jeremiah 20:15, to support your theory that Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 are referring to pederasty or consensual pederasty.

The verses you cited are describing newborn baby boys up to 8 days old. The Hebrew word, zakar, means different things depending on the context in which it is used. It doesn't always have the same meaning.

For that reason, that zakar has a wide semantic range so that it can refer to a newborn baby boy does not lead to the conclusion that Moses’ use of zakar in Leviticus 18:22 means Moses is referring to newborn baby boys there or to teenage boys.

Moses first uses zakar in Genesis 1:25 and again in 5:2, to refer to the adult male, Adam. Adam was created as an adult male, not as a newborn baby boy.

Zakar is used in Genesis 6:19 and 7:9 and 7:16 to refer to male animals.

In Genesis 17:23, zakar is used to indicate adult males and Ishmael, who was a 14 year old teenager at that time, Genesis 16:16, 17:1.

Newborns and children are not capable of informed consent and are not capable of consensual pederasty.

That Martin Luther may have believed (interpreted) Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 as describing pederasty has no bearing on the actual meaning of zakar in the Hebrew text that Moses wrote approximately 1500 years before Martin Luther was born.

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