A. By knowing what the Bible says. "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20
B. By walking in the Spirit. "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh." Galatians 5:16
C. By obeying the leading of the Holy Spirit. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Romans 8:14
D. By rejecting false teachers and false teaching, as God instructs us. "A man that is an heretick, after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." Titus 3:10-11
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Reviewing Fall To Grace
On page 6 of Fall To Grace: "Heaven and hell were the carrot and stick of our faith. It was turn or burn, baby."
On page 112 of Fall To Grace: "Sin is not a hellfire offense punishable by eternal damnation."
Yet Jesus and the Bible make it clear that sin IS a hellfire offense punishable by eternal damnation for those who do not receive Jesus as their Savior, John 1:12, 3:7, 3:18, 3:36.
Jay writes on p. 138 of Fall To Grace: "But God's unconditional love is an example to us..."
Unconditional acceptance and the unconditional love of God for the lost is never taught in the Bible. Unconditional love - love without ANY conditions - is a politically correct pipe-dream of postmodern christians who refuse to believe what the Bible says.
In the Old Testament acceptance with God was based on obedience, doing what God told them to do. In the New Testament acceptance with God is based on the finished work of Christ on the Cross of Calvary. The Bible never teaches and God never offers unconditional acceptance to the lost. What God offers is individual personal salvation to "whosoever" will repent and get saved.
Forgiveness and acceptance with God are offered ONLY when/if we trust Jesus Christ and receive the free gift of eternal life He made possible for us, Romans 5:17, 6:23, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Jesus Himself emphasized the absolute necessity of getting saved in John 3:7, 3:18, 3:36, 10:9, 14:6, by clearly differentiating between lost and saved folks. Is there anything unclear about Jesus' words?
"I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." John 10:93. On page 23 Jay writes: "We know where we stand with God because we know that He stands by us no matter what we do."
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
That is certainly true for a saved and born again Christian. It is certainly not true for any unsaved person. The extent of Jay's misunderstanding of and false teaching about grace is staggering.
On page 24 of Fall To Grace: "But "dis-grace" has no place in our relationship with God. You won't be dis-owned or dis-avowed by God. You won't be dis-loved. You can't be un-graced. Once granted, grace is never retracted."
Remember that Jay Bakker writes based on his false belief that everyone is already saved simply because Jesus died on the Cross, p. 152 of Fall To Grace.
Jay makes no distinction between saved and lost folks when he writes of the unconditional love of God. His false teaching is a massive distortion of the Biblical grace message, Romans 5:17, which ALWAYS conditions salvation on receiving God's free gift, John 1:12, 3:7, Galatians 3:26.
4. While Jay mentions Jesus' death on the Cross, instead of presenting Biblical truth, he attacks and judges Christians who believe what the Bible says about Jesus' substitutionary blood sacrifice on the Cross for sinners.
In spite of Jay's disjointed logic, the univocal teaching of the Bible about Christ's Substitutionary Atonement on Calvary is that Jesus died in our place, as our substitute, taking upon Himself God's wrath against our sins.
A propitiation is a satisfactory offering which satisfies the just demands of a holy God. Yet the fact that Jesus died for our sins does not save us. According to the Bible everyone is not saved automatically by the death of Christ on the Cross. Here's what the Bible says.
"Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows... he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him..." Isaiah 53:4-5
What the Bible says
about the atonement
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God..." 1 Peter 3:18
"But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God." Hebrews 10:12.
"Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification." Romans 4:25
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21
"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." 1 Peter 2:24
"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2:2
"He that believeth on him (Jesus) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18
Jay's false teaching
of universal salvation
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36
"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." Jesus in John 3:7
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them which believe on his name." John 1:12
"For if by one man's offense (Adam) death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ." Romans 5:17
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13
"But they have not all obeyed the gospel." Romans 10:16
5. Jay makes some really strange comments throughout the book, several of which I note here.
On page 90 of Fall To Grace, Jay writes: "To join the family we must be reborn into it, as Christ was."
On page 115 of Fall To Grace: "What's interesting is that the cost of rebirth-losing your ego, giving up your selfish pursuit of pleasure and glory-is really no cost at all... Having shed our old bodies, Paul tells us we are born into a new one: "one body in Christ" (Rom. 12:5).
Jay seems to have zero understanding of what it means to be born again in the Biblical sense. Instead, Jay presents an incomprehensible New Age spin on being born again which includes "shedding our old bodies," whatever that means.
Its possible that Jay is attempting to say we must be born again (John 3:7). Yet if that is what he means, why say that Jesus was reborn? Jesus was "God in the flesh," 1 Timothy 3:16, John 1:14. Jesus was never born again nor had He any need to be born again. It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that Jay lacks even the most rudimentary understanding of basic Bible doctrine.
"The point is that we believers can splinter into all the denominations we want... We can each claim that our little group is the only one with a true comprehension of God's Word. We can segregate society and close our hearts because of these superficial differences. Or, we can begin to patch up these fault lines and fractures we've created in the church and try to see past our differing interpretations of Scripture to recognize one another as children of the same God.
Yes, we can debate our faith-even argue. But in the end, we need to recognize that we're all members of the same big family. Faith in Christ can be the tie that brings and binds us together, even when everything else threatens to pull us apart."
Jay writes as if everyone is saved, even folks in cults who reject the Biblical historical Jesus. His idea that there are only "superficial differences" between cult beliefs and Christian beliefs betrays his ignorance of what the cults say and what the Bible says.
Jay lacks basic understanding of what Jesus said and what the New Testament says. Jesus and the New Testament scriptures draw clear distinctions between religious folks and true Christians. These simple distinctions were part of Jesus' teaching in Matthew 25 for example and Luke 16.
While we certainly understand that the drag queen has a basic misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches, Jay himself is so deficient in Bible knowledge that he seems to believe the drag queen had the message of the Bible right, that "Jesus loved everybody without judgment."
Yet that is most assuredly not what the Bible says. Jesus reserved His most scathing words for religious pretenders who trusted their religious good works instead of trusting Jesus as their Messiah, Matthew 23:1-33.
Jesus concluded his tirade against religious pretenders with these scalding words: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" Matthew 23:1-33.
Can anyone read those words and believe that "Jesus loved everybody without judgment?" Jay uses the drag queen story as segue to his unscriptural belief that grace means no judging.
On page 107 Jay writes: "Maybe the judgment has to do with sexuality or drinking or different religions (or no religion at all)... What are the rules I make about who gets to sit at Christ's table?"
The issue isn't rules Jay or other human beings make. The issue is, what does the Bible say in context? Jay is setting us up for his false teaching of universal salvation by implying that everyone is already saved (even people who have never trusted Christ) and Christians should never judge anyone as unsaved, especially people from different religions, including Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, p. 96-97.
7. On page 134 Jay writes: "Motivated by God's grace, you are touched by His perfection. When you act out of love you are, in this small way, perfect. But achieving this standard requires that we reject all the received rules and be guided instead by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."
Rejecting all the written scriptures ("reject all the received rules") and replacing the Bible with the subjective "inspiration of the Holy Spirit" is the modus operandi of postmodern christians and the Emergent Church.
After rejecting what the Bible says, they invent a politically correct religion and a politically correct god. These they cloak in Biblical terminology like "grace" to make their false teaching appear scriptural.
For the record, there are 31,102 verses and 788,280 words in the King James Bible, not one million. Statistics for other English versions of the Bible are approximately the same.
It should be evident by now that Jay Bakker, as sweet a guy as he is in person, lacks even a basic understanding of scripture rightly divided. He simply doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to teaching the Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 prohibit shrine prostitution, not homosexuality.
Fall To Grace - A Revolution of God, Self & Society is neither a good book nor a helpful book. It paints a sad portrait of Jay Bakker's false teaching about grace instead of providing Biblical teaching about the grace of God in Jesus Christ.
Because many Christians, gay and non-gay, lack spiritual discernment, this book will probably be a best seller. That's not a good thing because so many people will be led astray.
Because of it's false teaching and false gospel, serious Christians would do well to follow Dorothy Parker's sage advice when considering Jay Bakker's befuddled stream of consciousness tome.
from Kevin Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
from Rick Brentlinger Pace, FL, USA
" Fall To Grace is a primal scream liberal rant. If you love God …...
Please pray for Jay Bakker, his co-author Martin Edlund and the many undiscerning GLBT Christians who will be led into false doctrine by Jay's book. "Please Lord, open their eyes and restore them to Biblical truth."
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This page updated January 6, 2011