Does 1 Cor 6:9 mean I can't be gay AND Christian?


Rick Brentlinger Answers -


Thanks for the interesting question. Many modern Christians have embraced false teaching about 1 Corinthians 6:9. They arrive at their false teaching by assuming that the Greek words, malakoi and arsenokoitai mean homosexual.

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (malakoi), nor abusers of themselves with mankind (arsenokoitai),

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
-1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Of course, there is nothing in the Bible and very little in church history to support their false teaching. In the first century AD, no one would define malakoi to mean homosexual. The Greek word malakoi was rarely, if ever, used in the first century to indicate homosexual men and was never used to indicate lesbians.

In the first century AD, no one would define arsenokoites to mean homosexual. Historical evidence - the way the arsenokoit stem was actually used in the first century AD - indicates that the arsenokoit stem referred to:
  1. Rape

  2. Sex with angels or the gods

  3. Anal sex with one's wife

  4. Masturbation

Based on the extant Greek manuscripts available to us today, the Greek word arsenokoites was rarely, if ever, used to indicate homosexual men and was never used to describe lesbians.

Therefore, when someone quotes 1 Corinthians 6:9 or 1 Timothy 1:10 to "prove" that God is against homosexuality, they are conveying nothing more than their opinion, without any basis in fact.

It is important to keep in mind that getting saved means you've experienced heartfelt repentance from your sins and you are trusting God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, as the satisfactory payment for your sins.

Once you're saved, nothing you do can cause you to lose your salvation because every born again Christian has eternal security in Christ as a present and irrevocable possession.

Additional Information


1. How do you answer the verse that says homosexuals will not go to heaven?

2. Does the Bible say homosexuals will go to hell?

3. Is it possible to change from homosexual to heterosexual?

4. Does becoming a Christian make you heterosexual?

5. Is there any evidence of an actual gay marriage in the Bible?

Original Question:

"I am a gay man who is also a Christian. I love the Lord Jesus and want to serve him. But, every fundamental church or evangelical group points me to I Cor 6:9-10 where it says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I have a very hard time reconciling my sexual orientation and being a Christian. Can anyone help me with this? Someone even told me that you cannot be gay and be a Christian."

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Mar 01, 2010
 Better a millstone around their neck
by: Darren Theoret

I am always very concerned when I hear that Christian people are telling anyone that they cannot be a Christian because they're gay or any other reason.

God sent Jesus Christ to die for all of us to make a way to salvation possible for all. I believe that anyone who errects a barrier to any individual and salvation is working directly against the will of God.

And I'm sorry to tell Rick that I disagree with that -once saved always saved- doctrine. Look in Romans where it warns that we are a wild branch attached to the vine and can be removed.

Again, my belief, it is the Holy Spirit working in us giving us the desire to be reconciled to God. I believe that scripture about grieving the Holy Spirit could well mean the act of telling someone that God doesn't want them. Further to that, I believe when we will stand in judgment, that Jesus will appear before us as the person that we discriminate against; whether that means gay, black, woman, muslim, jew, poor, disabled, etc.

For our part, we need to have compassion on them and pray for them and in the right time talk to them about all this while they still have time to repent. We have an exciting ministry of reconciliation - remember the beatitudes - we are blessed by God. Lets be stronger than their hate.
Dec 25, 2010
 It is ungodly to be gay
by: Anonymous

God created man first and then woman. Because man was lonely God Created Man and Woman for each other changing the order of Gods creation is wrong alone
May 25, 2011
 I am a saved homosexual
by: Anonymous

I don't think its possible for a straight person to ever understand how a gay Christian feels. This is why they always condemn us. Christ is so awesome that He saved me from the chains of guilt and sins relating from homosexuality.

The problem with homosexuality is that gays feel removed from the church and therefore removed from God. This is so wrong. Satan gets a strong grip on the lives of some gays in terms of porn, lust, self indulgence, etc., resulting from rejection by the church.

I understand. I have been there. I have also been saved. Not from homosexuality, but from the bondage that sometimes comes with homosexuality.

What is the result of being saved?

I am still gay, but without sexual chains. Lust has turned into compassion. Guilt has turned into freedom. I have discovered a Christ who loves and forgives.

Why should the church be any different?
Jun 27, 2011
 response for dec 25th 2010
by: Darren Theoret

God did create Eve as a companion for Adam. But that doesn't mean that every companion for every man has to be exactly like the first relationship! It's true that if God created a same sex partner for Adam the history of the world would have been a lot shorter.

But when God noticed Adam was alone, He didn't say, "Adam's got no babies! I will make him a baby maker!" NO, He said, "The man is lonely, I will give him a companion." This worked well because apparently, Adam was straight. Good job I wasn't the first man created because Eve would be the one who would be lonely.

Expecting every relationship to be exactly like the first is ridiculous. I bet your relationship isn't even like your parents' or their parents' never mind going back 1000 generations.
Nov 21, 2011
 Rubbish
by: Sean

The person who wrote this artical should read a bible. The Holy spirit is not teaching this, this is teaching taught by man.
Leviticus does mention something on the subject.
Here's the rub. In Jesus own words "go and sin no more" If you accept Jesus as saviour and continue in your sinful life style, then it's highly unlikely your a christian.
"By their fruit you will know them". The Bible makes this all very clear. Read the bible you will see through out church history christians are warnd about false christians teaching lies. People teaching you can be homesexual and christian are false teachers. The bible also teachers that in the end times many will be led astray by these liars because they dont really have a relationship with Jesus, also they want to follow these teaching to justify their lusts and perverted lifestyles. It all comes down to choice, choose to follow Jesus or choose to continue on your own way. Also christians can choose to leave God, he will never let you go, but you can leave him and he will let you go your own way.
Feb 20, 2012
 Look and see
by: Angel Ramirez

Have you not read that which was stated in the bible in the book of Leviticus 18:22 which states thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 1 Kings 14:24 and there were also sodomites in the land and they did according to all the abominations of the nation's which the lord cast cast out before the children of Israel. Leviticus 20:13 states if a man lie with mankind, as he lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be apon them. These are not my words they are the words spoken by God himself to Moses as a commandment. Romans 1:24,27-32. Romans states it's an abomination also. We only have to look to Sodom and Gomorrah to know how God feels. Jesus stated Matthew 5:17-18 he came to fulfill the law not to change it. Revelation 21:8 but the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable and murders, and warmongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their heart in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Read your bible.

Rick's answer: Angel, I hope you will take the time to read the verses you quoted in context. None of those verses is talking about two men or two women falling in love and getting married. They're talking about temple prostitutes who worship the fertility goddess.

I hope you will read and study and learn why it is SO wrong to take verses out of context and argue that they're condemning gays and lesbians. Look on the NavBar under, What The Bible Says, for in context explanations fo those verses.
Apr 02, 2012
 The Bible is the word of God
by: Anonymous

Rick's comment: You guys are either too dumb to read with comprehension or you are being intentionally dishonest because you are not saved and therefore, are incapable of loving God's truth.

Your lying misrepresentation of the Bible, i.e., ripping verses out of context and then insisting they mean something they didn't mean in context, demonstrates your dishonesty.

If you are saved, you will lose rewards at the judgment seat of Christ. If you are unsaved, you will go from the Great White throne judgment directly to the lake of fire. I hope you are not this dishonest in other areas of your life.

To answer the question with which you ended your rant: All saved followers of Christ are sinners.

Rant from an Anonymous coward: This means that the Bible is the word of the creator, who knows everything that will happen and has happened. Don't you think if he accepted homosexuality he would make it clear? Just as he does with sex after heterosexual marriage.
What do you think it means when it says in Leviticus that intercourse with another Man is a Hateful sin?

And like theft, adultery and murder this scripture is not changed by Christ in the New Testimony. You cannot truly believe you can be a gay Christian when the Bible is so clearly against homosexual activity.

If anything, I imagine 'homosexual Christians' are simply ignoring these areas of the Bible and labelling them as "out of context" or "dated" as to justify your actions despite the guilt they feel. God loves you and will always love you. However he is clear with what he considers wrong and right. How can you be living as -what God defines as- a sinner and yet still be a follower of Christ?
Jun 13, 2012
 We have the righteousness of Christ
by: Anonymous

The very heart of man is sinful because we have a sin nature. The verse that says "go and sin no more" John 8:11, is impossible. But since Jesus knows that, I believe it means that, once we have Christ and the Holy Spirit living inside us, then positionally before the Father we are without sin.

Even though we are all STILL sinners, when the Father looks upon us He sees the righteousness of His Son. There was a transaction. Jesus took upon Himself our sins, and imputed to us His righteousness.

Rick's comment: Excellent! Someone who finally gets it! Many thanks!
Aug 04, 2012
 You are defined by Jesus, not your struggle!
by: Jordan from Colorado

I am wondering, why do you call yourself a "gay" Christian? Why do you let a struggle or sin define yourself in such a way? I wouldn't define myself as a drunk Christian or a fornicating Christian. You are not defined by your struggle or sin, but defined by your Savior, Jesus Christ! I pray that this thorn in your side brings you closer to God, as my struggles have brought me closer to God. I know my words will come off as a bit harsh, but I hope you see that you do not need to be defined by sexuality, creed, or race, but by Jesus Christ! I also pray that you will have victory over this sin and find encouraging brothers and sisters in the church.

Rick's comment: I think you're missing the point. Anti-gay Christians attack gay Christians and tell us we are not Christians because we are gay, even though the Bible never says that. The same anti-gay Christians rip verses out of context and insist that the verses mean something out of context that they do not mean IN context.

This website exists to point out those facts and to give gay Christians ammunition in the form of cold hard facts and in context explanations of the Bible to help them defend themselves against anti-gay Christians. Hope this is helpful.

I'm familiar with the blather and bluster from Exodus International. Their idea that no one is born gay, that everyone is born heterosexual and therefore, gay people are just rebellious heterosexuals who made a choice to defy God, seems to be the idea you've embraced when you say, You are defined by Jesus, not by your struggle.

It will be helpful for you to know what Exodus International really believes.
Sep 04, 2012
 Question and a comment.
by: JT

If that is not the correct interpretation of those two words, why are they consistently translated in that manner for those verses?

Rick's comment: Those two words were not used in the first century AD to mean homosexual. That is the point. Only in the last 60 years or so did modern translators begin to read homosexuality into the text of 1 Cor 6:9.

JTs comment: Also, your comment to another persons post is very disheartening. You claim to want people to understand your point and not judge you, but when they persecute you, you lash out in anger.

Rick's comment: I've never asked people not to judge me. I've asked them to read and interpret the Bible in context instead of ripping verses out of context to condemn.

JTs comment: If I am wrong please let me know, but I thought this was your comment - "Rick's comment: You guys are either too dumb to read with comprehension or you are being intentionally dishonest because you are not saved and therefore, are incapable of loving God's truth.

Your lying misrepresentation of the Bible, i.e., ripping verses out of context and then insisting they mean something they didn't mean in context, demonstrates your dishonesty.

If you are saved, you will lose rewards at the judgment seat of Christ. If you are unsaved, you will go from the Great White throne judgment directly to the lake of fire. I hope you are not this dishonest in other areas of your life.

To answer the question with which you ended your rant: All saved followers of Christ are sinners."

JTs comment: I just didn't expect the same attitude here that I see coming from the "fire and brimestone" Christians.

Rick's comment: First, everything I wrote in the quote you cited is true. They are either lazy or intentionally dishonest. And they will answer to God for that at the judgment seat of Christ if they are saved or at the Great White Throne judgment, Rev 20, if they are not saved.

Second, Yes, I believe precisely what Jesus believed about hell. Of the 23 times hell is mentioned in the New Testament, the mention comes from Jesus 20 of the 23 times. Think about that for a while.

Third, Jesus warned sinners against a burning fiery hell more than anyone else in the New Testament. So here's the question.

Will you believe Jesus that hell is a real place where real sinners suffer in eternal torment in eternal flames for rejecting Jesus as their Lord and Savior OR will you believe the no-hellers, those sanctimonious fools like Rob Bell and Jay Bakker who keep trying to air condition hell and re-purpose it into a non-biblical purgatory? I beieve what Jesus taught about hell.

Jesus teaches Hell 101
Feb 18, 2013
 None
by: Anonymous

In 1 Chorinthians 6:9, the NIV says "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men". The footnote also also reads, "The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts."

I don't understand why you keep saying "take verses in context", "understand the historical context".

Many TRUE Christians READ verses in "context". If you are saying read everything in "historical context", then don't believe you're a Christian. The people in the first century CE had to believe they were going to heaven because they were suffering right? Read the whole Bible in its historical context and you should realize that it was written to give people hope of better life later because the writers, scribes, etc were in hard times.

So if you always have to read stuff in historical context, you're saying it doesn't apply to us anymore.

Rick's comment: I believe it will help you to re-read what I wrote and this time, click on the text links and read those pages too. You are missing the point, perhaps because you are not thinking it through, perhaps because you've been unwilling to digest new information.

I do not allow commenters to post links.
Apr 19, 2014
 Defining Christ
by: anonymous

The word CHRISTIAN means "like-Christ". If we are Christians it should be our goal to be and like Christ did. Did Jesus live a homosexual lifestyle? No he didn't so why should we and that goes for male and female.

Rick's comment: I'll try to match your indubitable logic. Did Jesus live a heterosexual lifestyle? He was a single man who never married but who will one day marry millions of men who are part of Christs Bride. Because Jesus didn't marry hetero-sexually, so we shouldn't either, according to your zany logic.

You can call yourself a Christian, but a true Christian knows that in order to be a light in this dark world you can't follow your wants, rules and needs. You must follow God's and in that verse it says "Do not be deceived:Neither the sexually immoral...nor men who have sex with men...will inherit the kingdom of God." Just remember that God gives us free will to choose Right or Wrong, Good or Evil, Him or the Devil.

Rick's comment: It will be helpful to you to do some reading and study on this website. It may open your eyes to many things you have missed. No Greek text anywhere on earth says "men who have sex with men" in 1 Cor 6:9.
Sep 17, 2014
 To all debaters
by: Paul

If Rick was wrong , he will have to answer to God. All of us have been saved by grace through Jesus Christ only. So lets stop using the holy word of God against one another. Just breathe for a moment, and put away that sword. Now, lets all go and properly study whether what Rick says about the ORIGINAL TRANSLATION isnt perhaps right, so that we will be set free by the Truth.

Its not like God told us to fight one another, but the fruit of a true follower will be marked by their heartfelt love for one another, and having patience with one another' s weaknesses. I just love how God uses sites like this to show us our beam in our own self-righteous eye.

Thank you Jesus Christ for being so patient with all of us, and I pray that only Your truth will set all of your body free, and that there will be unity in all Your body members, whether we think we're a bit more righteous or important than another, amen. If we don't have love unconditional for one another we still have Nothing!
Mar 05, 2015
 I'm sorry but
by: Lynn owens

You cannot be gay and a Christian
Mar 06, 2015
 Nobody asked for your permission Lyne
by: Darren

John 3:16 WHOSOEVER! not whosoever straight people! Salvation is open to all who believe. You are working directly against the will of G-d when you say stupid things like this! If you are going to Presume to speak for G-d, you'd better be right about what you say 'cause He gets anoyed with people who put words in His mouth.
Apr 30, 2015
 Gay Marriage isn't recognized by God
by: Ken

the argument against the Levitical definition of homosexuality is that it applied to temple prostitutes not a true love seen in a marriage.

Rick's comment: LOL - Hi Ken - "The Levitical definition of homosexuality" - really? That is the lie which undergirds your unbib-lical opinion. What is a shrine prostitute?

From creation on God recognized a union between a man and a woman, there was to be no other union. True you can love a person of the same sex, and marry him or her, but that does not mean that God recognized the union. In fact, he doesn't! That is evident from the beginning, to Sodom, to Jesus, to Paul, to Now.

Rick's comment: Your lies are so earnest yet strangely unconvincing. You've presented your unbiblical opinion, not what the Bible says in context.

Why is homosexuality and homosexual marriage a sin? Because it goes against the very nature of who God is and his relationship with the Church, which is evident only in bond between a man and a woman.

Rick's comment: The more you share your unbiblical opinion, the more incoherent you sound. Are men part of the BRIDE of Christ? Yes, of course. Gay men and lesbians are already part of the body of Christ.

The problem with this web site and society in general is that they have chosen to view sin as a God given Identity, not as an action springing from man's corrupted nature. God almighty has the power to change any one. He can change a drunk, a prostitute, a liar, a porno, a drug addict, a glutton, an angry person, name a sin, God can change you. Please to those who read this, don't be like some "Christians" in that "They have a form of Godliness but deny the power of it" II Timothy 2:3.

Rick's comment: Ken, please do not be like so many anti-gay Christians who rip verses out of context and then insist that the out of context verses mean something they didn't mean in context. Lying arguments like yours are not recognized by God.
May 01, 2015
 Gay Marriage isn't recognized by God
by: Ken

Sorry son, but your arguments can't convince me. I know the truth and the truth has set me free. What fascinates me is this, we both believe in the same Jesus but I am the bigot, and you have the truth. What unites a marriage? What makes two separate people to become "one flesh"?

Rick's comment: Hi Ken - You make statements like: "From creation on God recognized a union between a man and a woman, there was to be no other union."

Yet the Bible does not say the part of your statement I underlined. That's the point. You feel free to make up stuff AS IF the Bible says it and we're all supposed to accept your opinion as authoritative. That worked for you guys for a lot of years, until gay people started speaking up and saying, Wait a minute. That's not what the Bible says.
May 06, 2015
 Gay Marriage isn't recognized by God
by: Ken

Rick's comment: Hi Ken - I do understand what you are saying. I reject it because it is your opinion, not God's truth. You've refused to engage any response I've made to your comments.

You keep repeating your opinion (three times in this thread) in the hope that someone somewhere will ignore what the Bible says in context and instead, embrace your opinion. I've given you three opportunities to state your views. That is enough.

Hi Rick. After reading your comments on the last two of my posts I'm afraid you don't understand what I am saying. Are you implying that I don't have a Biblical back up for my opinion? What creates a union between a man and a woman is more than just a spiritual connection recognized by God… Rick's comment: Edited because it's just more of the same.
May 19, 2015
 I'm so confused and it hurts
by: Adam

I'm a gay male, in a gay relationship, and I'm lost. For 5 years I've loved the same guy, committed just to him, yet for the same amount of time, I've felt as though I could be sending myself straight to hell. now, because of the thoughts that have been instilled in me since I was a child, we are separating.

I'm lost because there is no black and white, and too many variations of the verses that I look to for help. Its very difficult to love God, yet then find someone that I love more than anything on earth, only to be told I'm going to hell. Breaking the heart of someone who has never hurt me, and has anyways been there for me, simply because of a "what if".

Those that judge gays miss the point of Jesus' teachings altogether. But, I personally can not go through life not being certain whether or not I'm sinning. So it comes down to this- do I hurt someone that I love and will always love simply because of what I THINK is wrong, or do I stay in the relationship with someone I love and HOPE that when I die, I don't go to hell neither is a great option.

Rick's comment: Hi Adam - God has good news and peace of mind for gays and lesbians and transgenders when we believe what He says in the Bible. The most important question to answer right now is:

Am I sure that I am saved? Many gays are cultural Christians instead of born again Christians. They grew up in church or they are religious or they are spiritual. They try to do the right thing but they've never personally received Jesus Christ as their Savior from sin.

Why do so many young people quit church?

The best preparation for being a disciple of Jesus is to know for sure you are saved. Everyone needs to be saved from sin and hell and the wrath of God. Here is what Jesus taught about hell and God's wrath.

Jesus teaches Hell 101

What is the wrath of God?

Getting saved and becoming a disciple of Jesus means not trusting your good works, baptism, sacraments, confirmation, being a cultural Christian or grace allegedly flowing from a church and instead, trusting by grace alone through faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ alone to save you.

What must I do to be SAVED?

Once you know you are saved, it helps to understand What happens when you get saved?

Once you understand what happens when you got saved, it helps to understand how long you are saved for. Is your salvation temporary or eternal?

Saved forever = Eternal Security

Adam, if you'll read those links carefully and trust Jesus as your Savior from sin and from hell and from the wrath of God, He will save you eternally.

And the being gay thing? It is NOT an issue with God.

Please read through my website for more info about that. And please, if you have more questions, please get in touch with me through our Contact Us page.
Nov 21, 2015
 question
by: tyler

Im not being hostile in any way. Why do you fight to try to find any loophole to keep your sinful desire when the bible is so clear? Can you quote me a passage from the bible that says, "if you PRACTICE homosexuality you will have eternal life".

Rick's comment: Hi Tyler - When I present in context evidence that you are unfamiliar with, that is not "finding any loophole for sin." Phrasing it the way you did indicates you have not studied this issue and these verses.

I encourage you to reread the article and also, please read the comments and take time to click on the links and read that information. Truth is available if that is what you seek.

What must I do to be saved?
Dec 04, 2015
 What I know and what I believe
by: Austin McClung

I hate it when people use the quote,"go and sin no more" by Jesus (the coolest guy ever) to say you aren't a Christian. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to not sin. He means that you have no sin in the eyes of God or something along those lines. Personally, I believe/hope that there is something for gays and lesbians.

I have a bi-sexual friend and he has been beaten down by ant-gay "Christians" (I say "Christians" because a Christian would never had said the things they said to him) and he is a cool guy and I don't want him to go to hell.

Rick's comment: Hi Austin - Jesus teaches Hell 101 explains a lot.

In short, I am looking for an answer and pray for one each day.

Rick's comment: What must I do to be saved?

Rick, thank you for what you have said and when you defend your argument, you bring evidence from other sites and providing links. To those who lashed out calling others names and such ignoring evidence, please look back at other information people have provided and if you comment again, please do it in a non-offensive manner.

If you believe that something is a sin, don't hate the sinner but the sin. Jesus never hated sinners. He doesn't hate you because you are a sinner so why should he hate gays. In short, I have mixed feelings about this subject, but I KNOW anyone can be saved regardless of what they have done and will do.
Jul 10, 2016
 1 COR 6:9-11
by: DALE

IN THAT SCRIPTURES YOU NOTICE HOMOSEXUALS WERE LISTED WITH MURDERS ,THIEVES, THEN IT SAYS, THAT IS WHAT YOU ONCE WERE, MEANING THEY HAD TO CHANGE IN ORDER TO BE A CHRISTIAN, NWT.

Rick's comment: Hi Dale - I believe you will find it helpful to reread the article and then read it again, as many times as necessary, until you understand it.

Homosexuals are not listed with thieves and murderers except in unscholarly translations, of which the New World Translation is a prime example.
Aug 19, 2016
 Just my ten cents
by: Kieran

I'm sure someone will point out the correct verses etc..... Sadly I don't have my bible to hand however this is my understanding.......

The Bible does indeed say a man should not lay with a man as he does a woman...... The Bible also says that Jesus had not come to change the law.
The reason was because he couldn't at that point.

My understanding is that in Hebrews it is explained that Jesus was annointed high priest from the house of melchedizek ending the line of high priests that had existed previously......basically because God saw that these priests had abused the first covenant made with Moses.

Like a will, the second covenant could only come into effect once Jesus had died and been resurrected and ascended to heaven.

Hebrews explains the ten commandments stay in force...... There is mention to sexuality immorality but with regards to the second covenant which makes the first covenant obsolete, there is no specific reference to homosexuality....only "sexual immorality".

Above all else, Jesus says the two most important commandments are to love your God with all your heart and soul...... And to love thy neighbour.....

He didn't say love thy neighbour except homos so all this chest thumping about the old... And obsolete..... Old testament is quite frankly wasted energy.

As my reverend says, you can have a discussion a gay man or woman about how you think they are sinning......

But the moment you judge you have allowed evil thoughts into your head (book of James) and have sinned.

So, i would humbly suggest, everyone telling gays they will definitely burn in hell or that they're disgusting and can't be Christian etc might want to check the Bible again.

Now me, I'm a straight man and a Christian. I don't understand homosexuality but what i do know is that I'm thankful I never had to struggle with that part of my identity and even more thankful I've never had to cope with "Christians" who seem sooooo sure their understanding of the scriptures is correct and the only one that counts...... making my life a misery.

Jesus died for all of our sins, he instructs us to love one another..... Probably best to keep it simple rather than second guess the judgement of the only one who truly was perfect...... Unless you wish to usurp Jesus, in which case, good luck with that.

Aug 20, 2016
 and after many cups of coffee
by: Kieran

Hi Rick, I submitted a piece yesterday but overnight i couldn't sleep. I felt that my understanding of the question posed was lacking, so i called my reverend who came round and we discussed the matter, for many hours and may God bless the good reverend for his patience, his wisdom and his tolerance in answering my questions.

It seems the question posed by yourself has brought out many of the typical to be expected emotions and responses.

My response, after much discussion,to can someone be Christian and gay according to 1 Cor 6:9, is yes you can be both.

I would like to say to anyone reading this that in questioning my reverend, i put to him many of the for and against arguements put forward on here in previous posts so my understanding is based on biblical teachings not prejudicial mumbo jumbo.

Alot of problems come from answering a new testament question with old testament eyes. We constantly hear, indeed i do it myself in my previous post, that God said do not lay down with another man as you would a woman as that is detestable.

It's interesting that Corinthians, written by Paul, is being quoted for his mention of sexual immorality.
The problem we have is actually that the definition of sexual immorality is never given. Indeed, in the ten commandments adultery is stated, homosexuality is not.

However, Paul later explained that we, the gentiles, were given and are under a new covenant and indeed this was discussed at great length by the Apostles in Acts.

When Peter got up to speak he scolded and rebuked those present who wanted the gentiles to adhere to the law of Moses by saying "Now then, why do you try to test God by putting around the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we or our fathers have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are" (vs10-11).

Indeed James backed him up by saying that the yoke of Moses was not necessary and this is clearly explained in the letter they wrote to Antioch.

So what happens to the ten commandments and the old testament I hear you cry...... And if you read my previous post I have covered this but I will add some additions.

I've read and I quoted myself that Jesus said he had not come to destroy the old law or the prophets.... Indeed they were written and existed.... As stated in Matthew 5 17-18 but this is often misunderstood and I must confess until today,by me also.

Jesus says "I have not come to destroy the law or the prophets,but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, til heaven and earth pass,not the smallest letter or stroke of pen will disappear from the law until all has been fulfilled".

I have to admit I didn't understand this because at first I thought like many that Jesus was saying no change.

What Jesus was actually saying is there is no change at the moment but through him would come a new covenant with God which upon his crucifixion, resurrection and ascension to heaven would see the fulfilment of everything written and prophesied before and therefore the old "Moses" would be gone and in its place the new covenant which is written and taught throughout the new testament.

Don't believe yet?

When Jesus went up the mountain and some of the disciples saw him speaking with Moses and Elijah, what did God say?

The answer is in Matthew 17 1-5 where God clearly says "This is my Son, whom i love, with whom I am well pleased. Listen to HIM".

Listen to HIM. Not Moses or the prophets nor anything that had gone before. Listen to Jesus for Jesus was teaching us that the old order was going to be abolished and this is explained very clearly in Hebrews.

I won't explain it again but if you refer to my previous post, you'll see that the old order and line of high priests (levites) had become so sinful and so corrupted that God established a new high priest which was to be Jesus. Jesus came from the house of melchezidek thereby establishing a new untainted priesthood and covenant but this would only take affect once he had ascended to heaven.

So where are we on the laws and in particular homosexuality?

Well we are bound by two things.

The first is that we are instructed by Jesus to adhere to the laws of the land and those appointed over us and we receive earthly punishment for breaking those laws..... There is no divine intervention with regards to that.

With regards to homosexuality, old testament law cannot be used as justification for any kind of hating or discrimination because God did away with that when he said to listen to Jesus. Sorry people but he didn't say listen to Moses or Elijah, he clearly states to listen to HIM, being Jesus.

This may not be what some people want to hear but the teachings say avoid sexual immorality which has no specific definition and so as the old convenant is obsolete, we must take our lead from the law of the land and from the two most important teachings that Jesus placed more importance upon than any other.

1) love and believe in the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and;
2) love your neighbour (by that I think we can safely assume means all humans).

So my conclusions are these; Jesus laid out the rules of the new covenant in his teachings and the definition of sexual immorality was vague to say the least.

It is also important to remember that Jesus dined with tax collectors, prostitutes and all kinds of "unsavory" characters and never once did he judge them.

As Peter says, we should take heart in the knowledge that through our faith and our love for Jesus Christ, we have in him one who speaks before God on our behalf.

In the absence of clear definition of sexual immorality, apart from that defined by earthly law, as a heterosexual man i can only conclude that gay men and women who love God with all their heart and soul and love their fellow humans are absolutely Christian and it is not for us to judge otherwise.

Indeed, those who descriminate and judge homosexuals and keep quoting chapter and verse old testament scriptures would do well, i would suggest, to heed the words of Paul when he said in 2 Corinthians 3 vs14 "but their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away".

Infact, if you claim to be Christian and live your life according to the old testament which is the old covenant then perhaps you might struggle when your time comes before God because I'd suggest his first question would be when you were told not to listen to Moses or Elijah but to listen to my Son whom i love and in whom I am well pleased..... And you chose to ignore that and carry on living and judging through the eyes of Moses...... Which part of it didn't you understand?

We are instructed to love one another and seek salvation through Christ.

We are told not to judge, discuss sure, judge not as that is for God alone.

As a straight man and a Christian i will love all, love my saviour Jesus Christ and love God with all my heart and soul.

Will i get everything right? Absolutely not.

But have you ever wondered why Jesus said to remove the plank of wood from your eye which is so much larger than the mere speck of dust in another's eye? Think about it.

Drop the judgements, love each other including those of a different sexual orientation and love as Jesus loved.

You and i are not God or Jesus.

Peace and love be upon you all.
Sep 14, 2016
 Whaaaat?
by: Ronnie

Whaaaaat? Homosexuality is an abomination and it clearly states it. You cannot be gay and Christians since you go against the Holy Bibles teachings. There are several passages where it clearly states about homosexuality. Sadom and Ghamorrah was destroyed bc of it. Don't try to change it to satisfy your sins.

Rick's comment: Hi Ronnie - Is it possible you didn't carefully read the article before commenting?

Are you aware that the Greek word, arsenokoitai, in 1 Cor 6:9, is NEVER used in the Bible to mean homosexual, even though some poorly translated modern versions put the word homosexual into the Bible?

Are you aware that Paul never wrote the word, homosexual, in 1 Cor 6:9 in any language?

Are you aware of your responsibility before God to read, memorize and obey 2 Timothy 2:15?
Nov 26, 2016
 Forgiven
by: R.M.R

When you accepted Christ, you started a new life in Him. If in doubt about yourself and whether or not you are pleasing God, ask God to reveal to you what can hinder your relationship with Him and to cleanse you of it. God through Christ made us free from the bondage of sin. When you first invited Christ into your life, everything from your past was forgotten and therefore you are a new person with another opportunity to do things right. Only the Holy Spirit can reveal to an individual what is wrong in their life and help them through the new Journey in Christ. Ask for wisdom and knowledge before reading the word of God and to help you apply it to your daily life. If there is something hindering your relationship with God, the Holy Spirit will reveal it to you.
When something goes against our own believes we become very defensive and try to look for origins and meanings and to whom it was written. The world might have advance in technology , but human behavior has not changed.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

"And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more."
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

"He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea"
Micah 7:19 KJV

"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:16
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Feb 02, 2017
 King James Bible
by: Ginnie

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20:13.

Rick's comment: Hi Ginnie - Do you believe gays should be put to death? Whose job is it to kill us?

Here are three helpful pages of information if you are interested in God's truth in the Bible on this issue.

Can you explain how to get saved?

Do you believe it's okay to kill gays?

Lev 18:22 and 20:13 and Shrine Prostitutes
Jul 19, 2017
 Gay lifestyle
by: Shirley

1 Cor. 6:9 in the KJV and other versions reads what God has said. A man can't have sex with a man. You can do your best to distort the truth to suit your own wants and sexual desires but it doesn't change Gods words to us!

If we love Jesus Christ we are to be like Him in all ways. Pure and righteous to inherit a home in heaven. If we lie, cheat, steal, murder and live sexually immoral, a life contrary to what God says, we will be condemned to Hell eternally.

Hell will be an awful place. We will ALL stand before God at judgment! Please read God's word with an open heart to understand what God wants, not what we want.

Rick's comment: Hi Shirley - It seems to me you have misunderstood what you read. I encourage you to read the article again.

When we disagree with you on biblical issues, that doesn't mean WE are the ones who "distort the truth to suit your own wants and sexual desires."

Have you considered the possibility that we have studied the Bible intensively and our views are firmly based on scripture rightly divided?
Aug 25, 2017
 Did you ask God?
by: Hawaii -anyon

After reading and finding out this information you're posted. Did you actually pray to Jesus and confirm its true? Do you believe in speaking in tongues?

Rick's comment: Hi Hawaii - I was an independent Baptist missionary to Hawaii in the 1970s.

God's objective standard of truth is: What does the Bible say in context. Anyone can say, Yes, I confirmed it with God, but that standard is always subjective.

I believe that tongues was a sign gift for the first century AD while the New Testament was being written. There is no need for tongues today since the New Testament is completed. Most of what passes for tongues today is fake fake fake.

And have you noticed? Most of the times when someone speaks in "tongues" in church, there is no interpreter. Why? Because it is a scam - fakers faking it and everyone knows that.

In the Bible the gift of tongues was the ability to speak in a human language you had not previously learned. Today, the religious fakers who claim to speak in tongues often practice their fake tongues so they can sound kind of like they're speaking in another language.

Don't be fooled by religious fakers. That isn't cool.
Oct 07, 2017
 I'm super scared plz help
by: Unanimous

Rick I'm gay I know I don't want change because I've liked girls my entire life I always considered boys as friends but my heart is racing because in my church they say I can't be gay and go to heaven mom says I'm a child of God I believe in him I don't pray everyday but I live him I'm scared though because I don't know what's true or not true people keep saying the Bible is gods every true words but I'm scared I told God jeseus I accept him as my saviour and to help cure me I wish I knew what was true it says that God can take away the sin if u asked God forgiveness and to be your saviour I really hope it's true cuz my friend is straight and tells me it's wrong she doesn't know what it's like to be gay I mean how would it feel if the Bible said straight people had to gay to go to heaven or reversed anyhow to see how I feel like in this position plz help me find truth and actual real meaning that even God says. 😖😢

Rick's comment: Thanks for what you wrote. This website has the answers you seek so it's time for you to start reading and praying and studying.

On the NavBar, Click the links under, What the Bible says in context. Take notes as you read and look up the scriptures. Read it two or three times until you understand it.

After you've read it two or three or four times, you will understand it better than the church people who are telling you anti-gay stuff.

I have no way of knowing if you are saved. Please go to this page and read it and make sure you are saved.

What must I do to be saved?
Nov 08, 2017
 indulgence in sin
by: cyp

Being a christian means being a soldier that fights the temptations of sin. Sometimes you lose a battle but you keep on fighting. Defining yourself by a sin is being defeated by it. You cannot be a gay christian. You can be a christian fighting with homosexual urges, but once you call yourself gay there is no more fighting. And only the ones that keep fighting until the end get their reward. Despite your interpretation there are plenty of verses in the Bible against oral and anal sex. And this is enforced also in Acts of the apostles which mentions which parts of the law of Moses should be kept by gentiles: avoid the pollution of idhols, avoid consuming blood or strangled animals and keep the laws regarding sexual immorality. Many say that lesbians are not mentioned by they are. The reason so little space is dedicated to them is because they always were in small numbers. Homosexuals on the other hand were majoritary in many cultures. For instance most spartans were homosexuals and had sex with their women jus a few times to produce children. And the women were dressed like men. With the exceptions of dykes where it is caused by a severe hormonal imbalance I do not believe in lesbians. That is because they still use a phalus to have wex.

Rick's comment: Hi cyp - I'll post this exactly as you wrote it. I urge you:

Please do NOT believe everything you think.
Jan 14, 2018
 Looking for loopholes to justify the obvious?
by: TC

1Cor 6:9-10 listed host of other wrongdoers that will not inherit the kingdom of God, among them thieves, the greedy, slanderous, etc.
Noting that there is no differentiation between the wrongdoers, why would you continue to justify the obvious to test the boundaries?

The Holy Spirit is our Teacher, He is teaching in every situation not specifically mentioned in the Bible.

1Cor 6:7b "Why not rather be wronged? Why not be cheated?" to stay safe? God knows the heart.

Gen 2:24b "they will become one flesh"
Man and woman become one flesh. In our everyday life, only a matching key be used to unlock a lock. Can 2 keys or 2 locks be "one flesh"?

Rick's comment: Hi TC - When we explain the meaning of words used in the Bible and help people understand what the Bible says in context, that does not mean we are looking for loopholes to justify something.

When we disagree with your "ignore the meaning of words" and "ignore the context" approach, that also does not equate to looking for loopholes.
Jan 28, 2018
 I've read the whole thread
by: Peter

Hi, One person who commented brought up the Old and New Covenants, I think this is a good place to start. The Old Cov was in the flesh, the New in the Spirit (believers empowered by the Spirit) the Spirit convicting believers of sin etc. So the New Covenant is spiritual going right into the heart and mind, Jesus explains this in Matt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.KJV so the it went from the written command(external,Old Cov)to the innerbeing of the heart and mind (New Cov). So now to it, if you(a man) even think about going with a man its sin (same woman for woman or the opposite sexes) why? because its all outside of marriage thats why. So Gay marriage is now the question. Was there gay marriage in the Old Cov? No. any evidence of it in the New Cov? No.
Jan 30, 2018
 To Continue on from my Comment
by: Peter

So this leads to the original question.("I am a gay man who is also a Christian. I love the Lord Jesus and want to serve him. But, every fundamental church or evangelical group points me to I Cor 6:9-10 where it says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.I have a very hard time reconciling my sexual orientation and being a Christian. Can anyone help me with this?

Someone even told me that you cannot be gay and be a Christian.")Ans..There are lots of labels to Christians eg Charismatic, born again, spirit filled, baptist etc so the 'gay' word is a label.

However unfortunately, it suggests 'practicing' gays, which does not measure up to the Gospel. A male loves another male is not wrong but to take it to the sexual level is not sanctioned by scripture. David loved Johnathan but it was not sexual (if they did, God would have dealt with them very severely).

Rick's comment: Hi Peter - For almost 2000 years, no translation of the Bible said, homosexual or men who have sex with men, in 1 Cor 6:9. When any modern version inserts homosexual or men who have sex with men into 1 Cor 6:9, they are not translating. Instead, they are teaching false doctrine.

Every clobber passage must be ripped out of its context so that the anti-gay crowd can teach their anti-gay false teaching because if they leave the clobber passages in context, they don't teach what the anti-gay crowd wants.

I encourage you to read my answers to the comments in this thread.
Jan 30, 2018
 Thanks for your reply Rick
by: Peter

I'm doing my best not to get bogged down with details, you're right about translations and bias. Let me try another tack, do you think God is ok with gay sex? given that in the church up till now, any sex outside of marriage is sin.

Church people fail on this all the time but that doesn't lessen the importance of abstaining from fornication. Jesus is faithful to forgive us if we are repentant.

All that applies to the Christian today, does it apply in your fellowships? I mean do you sin in the sexual area? do you teach sex outside of (gay)marriage is wrong? The translators were biased so that opened the door to gay marriages(both sexes) and this is ok with God? There is Biblical direction on this is there? When I read in the NT, its always man with woman is the teaching eg Husbands love your wives and visa versa.

Rick's comment: Hi Peter - On this website I provide in context biblical answers about being gay and Christian. There is no way I can give you an adequate sound bite answer here. I encourage you to spend time reading and exploring this website and clicking on links to additional information, especially my Gay Christian FAQ.

I've pointed out previously on this website that since about 95% of the human race is heterosexual, biblical language is aimed at heterosexuals. That does not mean that gays and lesbians are excluded from God's loving plan of salvation and His blessings.
Apr 25, 2018
 Inherit the Kingdom of God
by: Priscilla

I believe that if you were really a Christian you would pray for God to forgive you of your transgression. God says homosexuality is an abomination.

Rick's comment: Hi Priscilla - Nothing in the Bible says I have to agree with your views or I'm not saved. God never says homosexuality is an abomination. You are probably referring to Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13.

My shrine prostitutes page is helpful to get up to speed on the gay issue. Be sure to click on the links too, for more information.

This page is helpful on the meaning of 1 Cor 6:9. 1 Corinthians 6:9.

Thanks for stopping by.
May 06, 2018
 This still love?
by: Datboi

I'd like to discuss the topic. I say it's a sin, prove me wrong.

Lol that's the point of the website but still what about Sodom and gamora?

Rick's comment: Hi Datboi- Sodom was never about homosexuality.

What must I do to be saved?

To understand Sodom and Gomorrah, read Genesis 19 and answer these questions.
Jun 01, 2018
 What is TRUTH?
by: NoOne

You did not mention the etymology of the word aresenokoitai. Nor have you put the word, it’s origin, and its use into context of the New Testament where it appears, how many times it appears, and to the reason it was "coined" by the one who wrote it.

Rick's comment: Hi NoOne- There are text links in the article that you can click on. I'm not sure why you ignored them but here they are again.

What does the Greek word arsenokoites mean?

What words could Paul have used if he intended to condemn homosexuality?

Please define arsenokoites.

You also failed to explain how and why it relates to malakoi, which is rather significant for such, by your own writing, a rare word found in the Bible. I wonder if you know the truth and chose to ignore it to twist scripture in order to deceive. Everything you wrote on this site is a lie.

Rick's comment: The fact that you have never heard of it or have never studied it, doesn't make the truth a lie.

Throughout church history, most Christians did not define malakoi to mean gay.

In the Bible, the Greek word malakoi never means gay or lesbian.

How many times is the word "gay" used in the Bible to represent homosexuals since you claim expertise biblical wording as well as intent? Certainly, you would be more accurate trying to pass yourself off as a "homosexual christian" and not a "gay" one, correct? After all, gayophobic is never a charge leveled against heterosexuals that do not accept your life-style choices of same sex "partners". Why the linguistic confusion? Confusion comes from Satan.

Words mean things. Please explain what the ones I have cited mean to you.
Jun 21, 2018
 What is Sin
by: Steko

Hi
Just came across this site. Maybe someone could help me. Rick says the 1st cor 6 does not mention homosexuality. I accept that. It also doesnt mention paedophiles. So my question is can active paedophiles be Christians? If not why not? I thought it meant all sexual immorality whether straight or gay.Is it a case of we as humans interpret the bible to suit our own narrative?

Rick's comment: Hi Steko - One thing seems clear based on your comment.

You are mean-spirited and wanting to insult us instead of seeking truth.

Why? Because you compared being gay to being paedophiles. We do not affirm or endorse paedophiles.

You probably already know that but you aren't really interested in truth.

You want grace extended to you but you don't extend grace to others. I hope you start growing up soon.
Jun 22, 2018
 Mean spirited
by: Steko

WOW! Did I hit a nerve. Please show me where I made the comparison. Did I not refer to both straight and gay people. Am I comparing straight people to paedophiles?
I was referring to the basis of the debate. You just made an assumption that I am straight...Maybe I was just trying to qualify what is meant by sexual immorality. To a gay man sex with another man is not immoral, it's love??? Yet a being a paedophile is in acceptable. ( despite it being right in the paedophiles mindset) How dare you lecture everyone who dares to debate with you and challenge you, whilst you. Talk about double standards. Do paedophiles not bad Grace, love acceptance? Or maybe not as it is outside the gay agenda. Let's hope you don't live in a glass house
Jun 27, 2018
 Correct
by: Mike

If you choose your sin over God then obviously you won’t be in heaven. Repent means turn from or have a change of mind. How can a person living in adultery repent if they won’t leave it? Same goes for any sin including homosexuality. It’s just basic common sense.

Rick's comment: Hi Mike - The word repent means to have a change of mind. It does not mean to turn from sin.

Everyone who is saved is justified by faith, Romans 5:1. Everyone who is saved continues to sin until the day they die yet when they die, God takes all saved folks to heaven.

You believe that being gay or homosexual is sin. The Bible never says that except in some new versions where the translators added in a modern word that is not used in any ancient manuscript.

Their use of the word homosexual indicates the cultural bias of the translators but is not an accurate way to translate scripture.

No human author of the Bible ever wrote the word homosexual or its equivalent in any language.
Jun 28, 2018
 What is Sin
by: Steko

Being gay or homosexual does not make you a sinner. We all sin that is true. However, again I say we as humans decide what is SIN in our own conscience. It's the pre medicated sin that determines whether or not we are truely saved. If we know something is sinful and continue to parttake of it then surely ther must be something wrong with our salvation.I have sinful thoughts everyday as does everyone, however it's when we act on and feed those desires and thoughts the problem arises. We are not sinners because we sin...we sin because we are sinners by nature!!!
You say you are a Christian, who am I or anyone to say your not? God will sort it all out on that great and final day. I put my trust in nothing less but the blood of Christ my saviour.

Rick's comment: Hi Steko - I encourage you to study justification by faith. It is vitally important to understand what happens when you get saved.
Oct 17, 2018
 Marriage
by: Kate

What is your view of marriage in the context of scripture? What is your view of sex outside of marriage in the context of scripture?

Rick's comment: Hi Kate - Marriage in the context of scripture is when flesh joins flesh, Genesis 2:24 and 1 Corinthians 6:15-20. It is not the civil or religious ceremony.

The first marriage in scripture, Adam and Eve, as wonderful as that was, does not negate other kinds of marriage, like polygamy or gay marriage.

Sex outside of marriage, is not viewed with general approval in the Bible. On the other hand, there is a rather odd passage in 1 Samuel 21:1-5, with v. 5 being particularly interesting.

And David answered the priest, and said unto him, Of a truth women have been kept from us about these three days, since I came out, and the vessels of the young men are holy, and the bread is in a manner common, yea, though it were sanctified this day in the vessel. 1 Samuel 21:5

It may be worthwhile to spend time wrestling with the implications of what that verse means. The young men are holy - women have been kept from us.

1. The anti-gay crowd used to make the argument that gays are immoral and unholy because they have sex without being married, even though we couldn't legally get married a few years ago. "You gays are too promiscuous."

2. The anti-gay crowd views Adam and Eve as the only kind of marriage God will truly bless, even though the Bible never says that.

3. The anti-gay crowd says that marriage is only for one man with one woman for life. Of course, they ignore the epidemic of divorce and remarriage in their churches. In plainer words, they don't live up to their own professed beliefs.

4. The anti-gay crowd loves to attack gays who live in committed relationships as living in sin because a few years ago, gays couldn't legally marry in most states.

5. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 2015 made gay marriage legal in all fifty states. Now the anti-gay crowd ignores the fact that we can legally marry. And when we get married, they still view us as unholy sinners.

The anti-gay crowd treats gays as badly as first century Jewish believers treated Gentile believers in Acts 10 and 11.

They are too focused on legalism and tradition when they should be focused on Christian love and accepting their gay brothers and lesbian sisters in Christ.

Oct 28, 2018
 You will not see a Homosexual in Heaven - sorry
by: Joe

This is CLEAR false teaching.

You CANNOT get around Romans 1:26:

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Rick's comment: Hi Joe - I have a FREE verse by verse commentary on Romans 1 online which explains scripturally why I believe what I believe. Romans 1

The due penalty was AIDS.

Rick's comment: Well no, since most of the people with AIDS are not gay, the due penalty for sin, based on your faulty view of Romans 1, wouldn't be AIDS.

There are many ex-homosexuals who came out of homosexuality because they knew they were sinning against God. What do you call them?

Rick's comment: In 2013, Exodus International the biggest conservative Christian ex-gay ministry on earth, shut down and admitted that they didn't see anyone change their sexual orientation in 38 years of worldwide ministry. That is the reason they shut down.

Not condemning gays at all - same with my daughter living with her boyfriend - I tell her I will not see her in heaven because she's a FORNICATOR.

Why do you think God is righteous?

You can be gay if you're not having sex with another guy. But if you are, you will burn forever with the worms. And Rick? It will be worse for you as a False Teacher. Maybe find another religion that supports your beliefs, but you're DEAD WRONG in your false beliefs. Sorry man.

Rick's comment: Sorry Joe - You need to study justification by faith. When God saves you, He forgives you ALL trespasses.

In plainer words, all your sins, past, present and future, are forgiven when you get saved, and God remembers them no more.

What must I do to be saved?
Dec 15, 2018
 Leviticus 18:22
by: Julius

Read Leviticus 18:22. It's described as an abomination.

Rick's comment: Hi Julius - Christmas is coming soon. Please give yourself the gift of Bible study. Here's a great place to start.

Merry Christmas to you!

What is a shrine prostitute?
Feb 06, 2019
 Why not redefine the others?
by: Gene

Why are you just defining the one item and not fornication, idolatry, stealing, covetousness, drunkenness... etc.

Rick's comment: Hello Gene - Interpreting scripture in its biblical, cultural, doctrinal, historical, linguistic and religious context is not redefining the Bible.

Many Christians have been taught things that are not true because their pastors don't study the Bible and/or, take verses out of context so they can teach things that are not true.

It is important for Christians to believe what the Bible says, in context.
Feb 21, 2019
 What Twisted Garbage Is This?
by: Fred

LGBT community twists the Holy Bible to say whatever they need it to say and this is twisted garbage. When you find yourself at the Great White Throne Judgement you'll know how wrong you were/are but it'll be way too late. Good luck. Better yet repent and ask God to forgive you and actually repent which would require you to turn from your current lifestyle and sin no more.

Rick's comment: Hi Fred - That is funny. If we disagree with YOU, we must be unsaved and headed for the great white throne judgment.

Your pride aside, isn't it time for you to read, memorize and obey 2 Timothy 2:15? Doing that will change you for the rest of your life.
Apr 03, 2019
 1 Cor 6:9 is not for only homosexuals
by: Ron Martella

Why is it that you all are so adamant to endorse 1 Corinthians 6:9 to refer to ONLY homosexuals?

Are you so ignorant/naive to think that straight men do not have sex with other men? Or that having same sex relations automatically makes one gay??

Also, why do you assume that all homosexuals live immoral lifestyles? Can't anyone think beyond their own noses?!?
Jun 12, 2019
 help me
by: anonymous

Hi, I think I’m gay. I am so curious and I am so freaking out.

I really don’t want to be gay and is it okay to be gay but restrain any sexual lusts towards men (like you restrain thoughts, sex and sexual relationship with men). Or is just being gay already a sin?

Rick's comment: Hi anonymous - The best thing to do, to understand being gay, is to read more of this website.

I have helpful information about being gay on my Gay Christian FAQ.

Even more important than whether you are gay is, are you a real, born again Christian? The most important thing you will ever do is, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior from sin, hell and the wrath of God.

Are you saved? Have you trusted Jesus as your Savior?

What must I do to be saved?
Jun 26, 2019
 Shameful
by: Michael

Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another; males with males working out shamefulness, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error. 
Rom 1:28  And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do the things not right, 

You people are wicked losers and will not escape God's judgment for preaching this Anti-Christ nonsense.

Rick's comment: Hi Michael - I have a FREE, verse by verse commentary on Romans 1, on the Home Page of my website.

I encourage you to read it and let me know what you think.

FREE Romans 1 Commentary
Aug 13, 2019
 show love.
by: Anon

I used to be pansexual not so long ago, but it all just felt so wrong to me. Me being with a woman, I just felt wrong.

I became Christian not so long ago and I’m not longer pansexual because God taught me that women and men belong together.

It’s what was created in Genesis. Yet, no one has the right to judge others for what their sexual preference is.

You must show love. Love. Not judgment. Jesus changes lives, amen.

Rick's comment: Hi Anon - I am so glad you got saved recently. That is wonderful news!

What must I do to be saved?
Dec 13, 2022
 Who are you to judge your neighbor?
by: BeckyJo

James 2:9 - "But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors."

Do not assume straight people are preferred over gay people in the eyes of God.

Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Arguing God only recognizes marriage between a man and a woman is a lie. God does not see us as we see each other. You only recognize marriage that way but God sees the love in our hearts.

anyone who hates a fellow believer is still living and walking in darkness. Such a person does not know the way to go, having been blinded by the darkness.
John 2:11

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself

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