Am I sinning?

by Gui
(Canada)




The common sense answer to your question is, Yes, you are committing the sins of adultery and fornication when you sneak around behind your wife's back and have sex with anyone outside your marriage. Even unsaved people recognize that kind of behavior as cheating.

The Bible says: Thou shalt not commit adultery." Exodus 20:14.

The Bible tells us: "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and every wife her own husband." -1 Corinthians 7:2.

The Bible says: "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel (his body) in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:" -1 Thessalonians 4:3-5.

It sounds like you're trying to rationalize your sin by portraying yourself as protecting your wife by cheating on her instead of divorcing her. If you're secretly having sex with men while also being married to your wife, I wonder if you really do care about her? AIDS and other STDs are real and you have no right to treat her in such a shabby way.

I encourage you to man up and make a decision. Either keep your marriage vows and stay faithful to your wife or get divorced so she is free to marry someone who will love, cherish and be true to her. You owe her honesty and faithfulness, not lies, deceit and cheating.

At the bottom of this page, I've included links to additional information which answers your question.

"Gui's Original Question: I first suspected I was gay when I was 19, though I had always been attracted to men and not to women. I fell in love with a fellow student but did not acknowledge that that's what it was. On an occasion when we traveled to to make a presentation on behalf of our college we had to share a bed. We inadvertently found ourselves engaging in sexual activity. On another occasion we did the same thing intentionally.

I denied that I was gay. I met and married my wife on the basis of the love of friendship, not romantic or erotic love. I had never had sex with a woman and my first experience disgusted me. Our sex life was very occasional and I did it for the sake of my wife. Fortunately she does not have a strong libido and has been satisfied with the amount of sex we have.

I was always sexually attracted to, and sometimes aroused by good-looking men. Still I denied that I am gay. Over the years of our marriage occasions arose when I was tempted to have sex with a guy and I gave in. I felt guilty and ashamed. Each time I confessed to God, repented and believed I was forgiven.

When I have tried to discuss my doubts about my orientation with my wife she has felt threatened and blamed herself saying that there's something wrong with her if I doubt my sexual identity.

Recently I have finally admitted to myself that I am gay. I met a guy, who has become a friend, who is also gay. We've had sex together. It was the only really satisfying sex I have ever had. We want to continue in the relationship, including the sexual aspect.

My wife does not know about the sexual aspect of our relationship, and I don't intend to tell her. Also, I love my wife and don't want to hurt her. I think to leave her for my friend would be morally worse than having a sexual aspect to our friendship.

I justify my situation to myself by telling myself that this is lesser of a number of evils: the evils being abandoning my wife; denying my orientation and thus falling into having sex with guys on presenting occasions. I have tried to be hetero and failed. Total abstinence from gay sex seems impossible for me, even though I have only occasionally engaged in it.

Yet I have doubts about the sexual aspect of my friendship. I don't want to sin, but is sin always all or nothing? Are there not categories of good, better and best, bad, worse and worst? What do you think?"

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Jan 25, 2011
A house built on sand...
by: Sparrow

Your comment that "I met and married my wife on the basis of the love of friendship, not romantic or erotic love..." is, I believe, at the very core of the deception. Unless, at the time you married her, your bride was fully aware of your feelings going into the marriage -- and was fully accepting -- then the union was birthed in deception, like a house built on sand.

One wonders WHY you would even get married under (and settle for) such pretenses? To hide your REAL feelings?? To wear a mask in society? You were unfair to your bride, to yourself, and MOST important -- to your God. It's one thing to go through life cheating and deceiving yourself, but to take another down with you reaches a whole different level. And now you would break her heart in recompense for her years of faithfulness? Would that clear your conscience as you go forward with your life?

I humbly don't see how anything built upon such a flawed foundation can last. If you feel that to remain in your marriage is "living a lie," then only complete truthfulness with her, yourself, and the Lord can be the only recourse now.

Seems to me that it'd be far wiser to come clean now than to continue in--and die in --the lie.

May 23, 2011
Levels of sin?
by: Anonymous

"I don't want to sin, but is sin always all or nothing? Are there not categories of good, better and best, bad, worse and worst? What do you think?"

I agree with you that we are all inherently evil but through God's salvation through Jesus Christ we can redeem ourselves. So should we not strive to be perfect like our Father in heaven? The journey is hard, but should we settle for good enough?

There are such categories of good, better, and best, and bad, worse, and worst. But according to the bible, God will separate mankind into two groups, saved and unsaved. So isn't the categories of worse or better irrelevant? In my mind, I see four kinds of sinners.

1. Sinners who unknowingly sin, and do not repent

2. Sinners who unknowingly sin, discover the sin and repent

3. Sinners who knowingly sin, and repent

4. Sinners who knowingly sin, and do not repent

I know we just established the fact that categorization of sin is irrelevant, but doesn't the last description of a sinner repulse God?

Mar 31, 2012
Repent?
by: Anonymous

Hi, I am a struggling christian and I know I have fall-in in love with a girl. I have been told since I have grown up that homosexuality is a sin. Well for what I read in the Bible and what I have interpreted I would say it is.

Rick's comment: Being in a committed gay relationship is not a sin. How can I reconcile being lesbian and Christian?

I know Jesus died for my sins and he loves me. But if I never repent, will I not be able to go to heaven? I know its a sin but I know I love this person more than I have ever loved anyone besides the God himself.

I do believe I am sinning. I do believe if I ask for his forgiveness he will forgive me but if I dont repent and stop wont I go to hell? I would think so. Can I have someones help please!

Rick's comment: The first thing you need to get settled is your relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Jesus died and paid for your sins so that He can be your Savior. You can get saved by trusting Jesus Christ right now. You and your girlfriend both need to receive the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Until you do that, things won't make any sense to you.

The second thing to understand is that getting saved does not change your sexual orientation. Changing your behavior will not save you but getting saved should change your behavior. If someone continues drinking, drugging, partying and living an immoral life after they get saved, something is seriously wrong and yes, those sins need to be repented of.

The result of getting saved is that the Holy Spirit indwells your heart and starts to clean up your life. You lose your taste for worldly things and become interested in pleasing God. Please click the links and receive Jesus as your Savior. Many thanks!

Jul 29, 2012
A widow's question
by: Anonymous

Or what is the biblically appropriate way to ventilate your sexuality? How does one encourage "homosexual chastity?" Or is that thrown out the window? I know what straight chastity is and I know its not the most fun to deal with after you have been widowed. Its certainl easier to abstain from something when you don't know what you are missing.

I guess I am posting here because I know what it means to not act on your urges for the greater good (God's laws) I am just wondering, if I am not suppposed to have sex outside of marriage, what do you encourage the members of this community to do and is it a paralell concept? God helps the widow, how does he help the gay?

Rick's comment: We believe in committed relationships for gays, since in many places we are not legally allowed to marry.

Aug 21, 2012
ROMANS 1:26-27
by: MATT FAULK

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

IF YOU REALLY ARE SEEKING THE BIBLICAL TRUTH TO THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY THEN YOU HAVE TO READ THE BIBLE IN CONTEXT (READ THE WHOLE BIBLE, NOT JUST A FEW SELECTED VERSES THAT ARE NOT INTERPRETED BUT TWISTED TO FIT YOUR OWN POLITICAL AGENDA)YOU SAY THAT THE BIBLE NEVER SAYS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG!!! WELL, THE ONLY REASONABLE EXPLAINATION FOR THIS IS THAT YOU HAVENT READ THE WHOLE BIBLE.

to the person that will decide whether or not to post this comment, I CHALLENGE YOU in the name of jesus christ our LORD AND SAVIOUR, TO POST THIS COMMENT. i have no political agenda, but i do take very seriously the word of God and my goal isnt to condemn anyone, but to bring light into the darkness so that all who honoestly seek God's answer to these questions will hear a true biblically contextual and not politically motivated answer.

Rick's comment: Hi Matt - Thanks for having the Christian courage to put your name with your comment. I appreciate that!

I agree with you that the only sane way to understand the Bible is to read it in context. When we read Romans 1:26-27, we consider the following to make sure we understand the context.

Biblical

Cultural

Doctrinal

Historical

Linguistic

Literary

Religious

Those are just some of the factors which help us decide the context of Romans 1. I hope you took time to read my Romans pages and the text links to additional information.

Part of being an obedient disciple of Jesus Christ is obeying 2 Timothy 2:15. The desire of my heart and the goal of my life is to always interpret scripture in context so that what I write and what I teach is accurate.

Aug 24, 2012
ROMANS 1:26-27 (NOT ROMANS 1:31)
by: MATT FAULK

THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO MY COMMENT. I DID READ YOUR COMMENTARY ON ROMANS AND THE ENTIRE FOCUS WAS ON ONE WORD AND NOT THE CONTEXT. THESE 2 VERSES SPEAK OF INTIMATE SEXUAL RELATIONS AS IT IS REGARDED TO BEING BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. THE KEY WORD HERE IS NATURAL... WE ARE REFERING TO ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN. TAKE A LOOK AT THE HUMAN BODY. A MAN HAS A DISTINCT DESIGN (NATURE) A WOMAN TOO HAS A DISTINCT DESIGN (NATURE). OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETEEN THE DESIGN OF A MAN AND THAT OF A WOMAN. GOD TELLS HUMANITY TO BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLYING. THIS COMMAND IS ACORDING TO HIS ORIGINAL DESIGN. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO MULTIPLY WITH ANOTHER MAN OR A WOMAN WITH A WOMAN. IF THIS ISNT PART OF GOD'S DESIGN THEN WHY WERE MEN AND WOMEN GIVEN A DISTINCT DESIGN THAT WHEN UNITED (ACCORDING TO THIS DESIGN) THEY ARE ABLE TO COMPLETE THIS COMAND OF MULTIPLICATION. A MAN IS DESIGNED TO CARRY SEED AND A WOMAN IS DESIGNED TO CARRY THE EGG. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME ITSELF, THESE FACTORS HAVE NEVER CHANGED. 2 MEN CANNOT PRODUCE A BABY NIETHER CAN TO WOMEN. SEX IS PART OF GOD'S DESIGN AND HAS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE (MULTIPLYING). THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SOMEONE HAVING GREAT FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN THE SAME GENDER, BUT IT ISNT IN GOD'S DESIGN (NATURE) FOR PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER. IF IT IS THAN WHY DOES THE VERY ACT OF HOMOSEXUALITY CREATE DISEASES AND SICKNESSES THAT CAN'T BE CURED.

ONE LAST NOTE: YOU SAID THAT THE CONVERSATION WITHIN ROMANS 1 26 AND 31 WERE STATEMENTS MADE FROM PAUL BUT ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPIS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ENGLISH TERM TRANSITIONAL PHRASE MEANS? IT REFERS TO A WORD OR STATEMENT THAT CONNECTS TO THOUGHTS. WELL, IF YOU READ FROM ROMANS 1:16-32, YOU WILL FIND THAT EACH PARAGRAPH BEGINS WITH ONE OF THESE WORDS. FOR EXAMPLE: FOR, THEREFORE, THIS IS WHY, AND BECAUSE OF THIS. ONE MUST REALIZA THAT THIS BOOK IN THE BIBLE WASNT ORIGINALLY ABOUT BOOK WITH CHAPTERS AND SUBTITLES, BUT AN ENTIRE LETTER. THIS LETTER DIDNT HAVE VERSE NUMBERS OR HEADINGS SO YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT ALL OF THESE VERSES ARE CONNECTED.

Rick's comment: Hi Matt - I am familiar with the design argument and the "you gotta reproduce" argument. In the context of Romans 1, I find them entirely unpersuasive.

Meaning no disrespect but I find it difficult to believe you read my Romans pages with comprehension. I dealt with the context and the meaning of words and the theme of Romans 1, which is Gentile idolatry.

You seem to be insisting that there is no valid view but your view. In the Romans chapter of my 390 page book, I present 15 alternative views of Romans 1. My prayer for you Matt, is that you will listen to the gentle entreaties of the Holy Spirit and respond like Peter finally responded in Acts 11, after three times rejecting the leading of the Holy Spirit in Acts 10. God has much to show you beyond where you are spiritually right now.

Aug 24, 2012
ROMANS 1:26-27 (NOT ROMANS 1:31) PART 2
by: MATT FAULK

ONCE AGAIN I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS TO POST THIS COMMENT SO THAT ALL CAN BE MADE AWARE ITS TRUTH. I PRAY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MY GOAL ISNT TO ATTACK OR UNDERMIND ANYONE, BUT TO REVEAL THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD FOR THE SAKE OF PROPER INTERPRETATION SO THAT ALL WHO SEEK GOD'S KNOWLEDGE WILL RECIEVE IT WITH UNFAVORABLE OPINION.

I DO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT ME. I DO BELIEVE THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN. I DONT BELIEVE THAT ANY ONE SIN ALONE WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF HEAVEN. (OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR IS WHAT DETERMINES THAT). BUT I DO BELIVE THAT GOD CANNOT BLESS YOU IF YOU ARE LIVING IN SIN AND HE CANNOT TAKE PART IN YOUR LIFE OR HAVE COMMUNION WITH YOU IF YOU ARE LIVING IN SIN. I AM NOT SAYING THAT HOMOSEXUALS WILL GO TO HELL JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE HOMOSEXUALS, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF RECIEVING GOD'S BLESSING IN THEIR LIVES NOR WILL THEY BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNION WITH GOD. THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE THEME IS THAT GOD CANNOT USE THEM TO SPREAD DO HIS WORK. FOR EVERY SIN IS BAD IN THE EYES OF THE LORD BUT THIS SIN IN AGAINST THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF GOD AND IS NOT ONLY SIN BUT AN ACT OF REBELLION AGAINST GOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND MAY GOD AFFIRM WITHIN YOUR HEART THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD.

Rick's comment: Hi Matt - I encourage you to keep studying and obeying 2 Timothy 2:15. Obviously we disagree on the issue of gays and the interpretation of Romans 1. My prayer is that as you study, the Spirit of Truth will lead you into His truth. Your gay brothers and lesbian sisters and transgendered siblings in Christ have discovered truth you have yet to embrace.

I do not for a moment believe your assertion that God will not bless gays or that gays are not spreading the word of God and witnessing for Jesus. The gay Christians I am associated with are evangelistic witnesses and soul-winners for Jesus. So far this year, we have seen more than 15 people trust Jesus as Savior.

Aug 25, 2012
I will continue to pray for you
by: matt faulk

...i will continue to pray for you and your mission and that God will touch your heart. thank you for your time and patience and may God bless you richly.

Aug 25, 2012
I am very well aware of ancient temple prostitution
by: MATT FAULK

Rick's comment: Matt, as you pointed out, I have been patient with you. But your condemning rants are becoming annoying and I deleted four of them, so no more posts from you.

If you will not study your Bible and obey 2 Tim 2:15 by rightly dividing the word of truth, which means to interpret scripture in its proper context, then you will always struggle to recognize truth.


Matt's comment: i am very well aware of the ancient temple prostitution and its original founders (Nimrod and semiramis and Tammuz) from the ancient mesopotamian empire.

i also understand that the majority of the bible refers to their practices and how we are to avoid them. but leviticus 18:22 plainly says a man should lie with a women as he lays with a man, for it is detestable before God. it doesnt matter if it is a part of temple prostitution or not he says that this very act is destable before God.

your COMMENTARY deals with all the verses surrounding this but never directly confronts this verse, so tell me how should we interpret this verse then. let the bible interpret itself because we are not infalliable but the word of God is. we should never try to explain what WE THINK the word of God says, but present it as it interprets itself.

Rick's comment: Matt, you have admitted that the real meaning of Lev 18:22 is temple prostitution. Only by ripping that verse out of it's context of false religion, v. 3 and Molech, v. 21, can you allege that it is talking about gay relationships and not temple prostitution.

Aug 28, 2012
about rick's comment to matt
by: Anonymous

Rick's comment: Matt, you have admitted that the real meaning of Lev 18:22 is temple prostitution. Only by ripping that verse out of it's context of false religion, v. 3 and Molech, v. 21, can you allege that it's really talking about gay relationships.

ANSWER: YES!!!!

in the first part of leviticus 18, moses says 18:3 DO NOT FOLLOW THEIR PRACTICES. v3 tells us that we are not to do as they do in egypt or in canaan. then he gives us a list of destable acts that are practiced in egypt and canaan. one of these acts is the act of homosexuality.

Rick's comment: No dear, he is not describing homosexuality. He is describing shrine or temple prostitution. There is a HUGE difference between being gay and being a shrine prostitute.

Anonymous continues: what other possible explaination could v.22 have. how does a man lay with a woman? ok now image that a man lies with a woman in the same way, what act are they commiting? i dont thin they are telling fairy tales! they are committing a homosexualy act! and then moses emphasises that this act is detestable.

Rick's comment: No dear, what Moses describes is shrine prostitution. Even anti-gay conservatives like John MacArthur and Robert Gagnon and Merrill F. Unger admit that.

Anonymous continues: what does destestable mean? i dont think that it means anything in a nice context.

in lev.18:22 the bible uses the word "lie" to descirbe this act. in hebrew the original word was לשקר SHAKAB which specifically means "sexualy connection". ok so lets translate the verse in true context, " a man should NOT connect sexualy with a man as he sexualy connects with a woman, if he does, then he is destestable before God.

now please, explain to me how this isnt talking about gay relationships. this list is a list of sexual practices that were realized in ancient temple prostitution, BUT he tells in verse 3 that we are not to follow these practices for they are against the word of God. this is a list of sexual acts that were used to worship false gods and moses is saying that we are not to practice any of them because they are against the will of God.

i agree with matt in full, the bible clearly states in these verses that homosexuality is not accpetable before God. if you wish to practice homosexuality then you are free to do so and God has given you this freedom, BUT there are consequences for doing so because it is a sin. thank you and god bless.

Rick's comment: You post-moderns seem to have lost the ability to think logically, to exercise Biblical discernment and to differentiate between things that are not the same. Please read my Shrine Prostitutes page for in depth information.

Aug 28, 2012
MR RICK
by: Anonymous

if you someone managed to prove you wrong, would you honestly admit it? if so could you give me an example of a mistake that you had to admit to.

Rick's comment: I think you are being silly. The truth is, you have not studied the gay issue and you have no intention of studying the gay issue. Your problem is spiritual laziness. Having never studied the clobber passages, pride compels you to disagree with those of us who have studied.

I'm hoping that as you grow spiritually, you will get convicted by the Holy Spirit about your lack of study and that conviction will compel you to obey 2 Timothy 2:15. Blessings from God as you walk the path of His purpose for your life.

Aug 28, 2012
you perjure yourself
by: MATT FAULK

i dropped in to see if there were any other comments that came about our little confrontation. i did see 1, but nobody else seems to be listening (that's good news for God and his true word). oh yeah i like the way you went back to cut and spliced my comments so that your interpretation was given the full challenge that i originally issued to you. now i understand you interpret scipture, cut and paste, if you dont like it you just ignore it and spin it. by the way i was reading through your cut and splice section with my comments and i realized that you STILL HAVEN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT LEVITICUS 18:22, you mention all the verses around it, but never dirrectly confront that particular verse. i wander why that is. oh and before you quote 2 timothy 2:15 again you need to realize that this is the verse that you need to embrace becuase i am not the one that has been perjuring your statements in order to prevent biblical truth from being heard, you are. look at all the other sins that you have commited in order to prevent your followers from hearing the word of truth. these sins include but aren't limited to: lieing, false witness, and blasphemy of the holy spirit. i have yet to commit one sin in all of our comments. is it necesary to sin for the true word of God to be presented and if i am in the wrong then why do you fear me so much. if you didnt fear me then you would my entire comments and not just the parts you like. i dont care if you post this or cut into pieces that benefit you or not, because the more you do these things, the deeper your digging your own grave. so go ahead, continue to mock God and his word and me. if you hate me then it is only reflecting that you hate the word of God because i have only spoken the words that are mentioned in the bible and nothing more. so why dont you mention a couple of more of your commontators, becuase they seem to be your only true interest and i can only imagine that you have twisted their words just like you did with mine. so go ahead, it doesnt bother me what you do, but know this, i wont give up hope for you because i know that everything that is happening is happening by the will of God and in do time you will either recognize you errors or suffer the consequences. remember pharoah and how God hardened his heart so that his ignorance would glorify God, well i fear that this is the case you as well. good luck and God bless and i will be watching what happens so that i can continue to keep you in my prayers so that God will save you from you ignorance.

Rick's comment: Matt, I'm starting to think you are crippled too high for crutches. I've dealt with Lev 18:22 at some length on this website. You may use our Search feature to find those pages.

Aug 29, 2012
the ancient near east was full of pagan religion
by: MATT FAULK

Let’s put this temple worship case to bed. the beginning of all pagan god worship began with Ham the son of Noah (Gen.9) Noah gets drunk and passes out in his tent and then his son Ham enters and discovers his father’s nakedness (this term can be translated to mean that a son had sexual relation with his mother) why else would Noah become so mad that he cursed Ham to such an extreme?

Later on ham gave birth to a son who gave birth to the infamous nimrod. Nimrod becomes the first world power, genesis 10:8. Nimrod and his mother Semiramis, Semiramis was also his wife and queen. Incest was a huge part of the original cult worship, but not the only immoral sexual practice that was realized. This is what mosses is talking about in lev. 18:6-23, the practices of Nimrod's cult. the original kingdom of nimrod was called Babylon (the tower of babel)then came Mesopotamia, Assyria, Egypt, neo Babylon, Persia, Seleucid empire, Greece, and then Rome.

Each of these empires adopted the religion of Nimrod which was centered around fertility worship. Rituals of fertility worship include every type of sexual immorality in order to worship their pagan gods. In the time of mosses, the Egyptian empire was the dominate force, so that is why mosses used them in his warning because the people, they knew firsthand the type of abominations that came Egypt. at the time when mosses is addressing the people, more than 40 years had been spent in the dessert and a new generation of people that never knew Egypt was preparing to enter the promised land.

So mosses reminds them of the sexually immoral practices that took place in Egypt and is in Canaan. This list in lev.18 is given to the people so that they know the types of sexual immorality occur within the land and that God doesn't condone them at all. Each act on this list (including homosexuality) are ritual sex acts that are used in fertility god worship... In your homosexual friendly version of KJV this act is called an abomination. He only uses this term in v. 22.

Rick's comment: No Matt, God also uses the Hebrew word towebah or abomination in Lev 18:29 to describe all of the wicked pagan things He is warning against.

For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.


Matt's comment: Why doesn't he use this statement in the other verses? That’s because all the other sins bring shame to those who commit the act, but homosexuality offends and brings shame to God himself because this act is the accumulation of all unrighteousness and rebellion against God.

Rick's comment: In your desperation to equate being gay with pagan sexual worship of false gods, you are teaching a lie. It is time to repent Matt and stop your misguided attacks on your gay brothers and lesbian sisters.

Aug 30, 2012
no more comments?
by: MATT FAULK

have you finally ran out of spin power or still trying to find away to spin my last comments. you can cut and splice me all you want and continue to use it to pollute the minds of those who follow your teachings, but i know the truth, you know the truth, and more important than the both of us, God knows the truth.

Rick's comment: Hi Matt - I've given you plenty of space to spew your unkind comments and some of your false teaching about gays, in the hope that you would listen to the Holy Spirit and get right with God.

You have rejected the leading of God's Holy Spirit and continue to vilify your gay brothers and lesbian sisters AND you continue to lie about me and make false accusations.

I feel sorry for you because you seem so miserable and angry. I do wish you God's peace and a renewed desire to obey God and live a life of discipleship to Jesus. With all best wishes: Your blood-bought brother in Christ, Rick Brentlinger

Aug 31, 2012
???????????
by: MATT FAULK

so your are saying that the holy spirit has lead you to this theory of yours? be very careful how you answer this question and remember what happened to ananias and saphira when they lied to the holy spirit. answering this question has nothing to do with me, but with God almighty himself. if this theory is just your personal interpretation of Gods's word, well that is one thing, but it you are decalring it to be the result of the holy spirits guidance then your about to embark on a voyage that can be very devastating! it would be wise counsel to not proclaim this theory of yours to be from the holy spirit unless you are absolutely sure and that God has clearly spoken to you in some form or another personally. i pray that before you answer this that you will think long and hard about the consequences that follow.

by the way, i only challenged you to post some of my comments, i made it very clear that the last fews comments that i wrote were adressed to you, publishing them makes no difference to me, that was your choice. good luck and be careful!!!

Rick's comment: Matt, the Holy Spirit of God works through His written words in the Bible. He illumines our mind to truth when we are open to His leading, instead of coming to the Bible to "prove" our own preconceptions.

If your witness to other gays is like your emails, you really need to adjust your attitude and allow the Holy Spirit to love the lost through you. Currently you do not appear to be doing that.



Feb 15, 2013
Homosexuality based on scripture
by: Keela

Don't get me wrong. I AM NOT hatful towards gay people. However scripture states that Practicing homosexuality is wrong. : “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin. (Leviticus 18:22 NLT)

I feel that the bible state nothing about having 'feelings' for the same gender but it is the ACTION of ATTRACTION that is sinful. Now I'm not asking personal here or anything but:
The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching (1 Timothy 1:10 NLT) This interests me.

Rick's comment: Keela, it is a mistake for translators to use the word homosexual in the Bible when that word and our current ideas about the meaning of that word were not part of ancient culture and language.

For more information, look on the NavBar under, What The Bible Says. Many thanks. This page tells how to get saved.


Mar 02, 2014
Am I sinning?
by: Mary Ann Carrasquillo

For some reason overtime I submit my name the rest of this page disappears...do I'll try posting first. It's rather strange. But anyway. In using Jesus's words in Matthew concerning Munich or homosexual if you prefer to translate it that way, it still does not give permission for a sexual relationship to exist between enuichs. Even the name in itself lends to the fact that there was NO sexual relationship here. I know you are desperate to find a scriptural excuse to live without guilt or eternal consequences but you can not promote the acceptance of same sex relationships in a committed or uncommitted relationship no matter how hard you try or how you try to spin the scriptures. And I do believe you know this...no matter what you say otherwise. Take much care, because Christ says it is better to tie a millstone around our neck than for us to cause even one of these little ones to sin. We have a greater responsibility than dealing with our own sin when we teach others it is okay to allow such sin. I will now share my own testimony and hope that it help whoever is willing to receive it. Homosexuality is a horrible sinful condition to ensure...it not only involves acts that cause us to sin but binds up and afflicts the very soul, emotions and heart of the individual. And yet with this terribly demonic affliction God can show Himself all powerful and a God of true deliverance. When I wad sent to a specific ministry that dealtwith the sin of homosexuality, I was very despondent. Every book I was given to read to help with insight and the way to deal with this affliction each one basically stated that once a homosexual always a homosexual. I witnessed many dear friends who continued to struggle with mannerisms and even marrying to find some peace yet still fought feelings everyday. The books and the organizations teachings were that I would have to either marry and fight the temptations or stay abstinent and fight the feelings...with an unsure promise that it would get easier as time went on. One night in anger, despair, and scared that I had no choice I threw the books against the wall and screamed..."How can I testify about your grace, your power and your deliverance if you can't even deliver me from homosexuality? I refuse to testify about you until the day comes that I can say you completely delivered me from this!" It did not happen right away, in fact it took three long and painful years. Years which were mostly spent in rebellion and sin. In fact my deliverance came quite by itself and quite unexpected... I hope this helps.

Rick's comment: Mary Ann - your story sounds like a story of charismatic delusion. Saying that gays need deliverance from demons is unkind in the extreme. If you are truly saved, I praise God for that.

Apr 20, 2014
License to Sin?
by: Henry

Can you please elaborate more on what it means that eternal security is not a license to sin? Are there consequences?

Rick's comment: Hi Henry - Eternal security is not a license to sin because it truthfully reflects the blessings God gave us in Christ, Ephesians 1:3, when He saved us by grace alone through faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ alone.

Eternal security is truth from God and He expects all of us to live in open acknowledgement of the truth that, when Jesus saves us, He saves us forever.

I explain it and boil it down to its bare essentials on this new page of my website. How should I deal with sexual temptation?

Oct 08, 2014
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13
by: Aaron Saltzer

I know this is not the topic, but I was wondering, if God was only condemning male temple prostitution in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, why didn't he just say "Thou shalt not lie with a male temple prostitute; It is abomination."? There was a Hebrew word for one.

Rick's comment: Hi Aaron - The link you gave went only to a translation page so I deleted it.

Yes, there were Hebrew words for shrine prostitutes, male and female. I explain them on my sodomites page. Remember the context:

1. The Holiness Code, Leviticus 17-26, so Lev 17:7 begins it.

2. Lev 18:3, 21, 22 - God places the prohibition in the context of NOT worshiping the false gods of Egypt or Canaan, like Molech, for example or the fertility goddess associated with as his consort.

3. Lev 20:2, 3, 4, 5, 13 - Again the prohibition and judgment is placed in the context of the false god Molech.

4. The ancient Jews and Christians understood this, as I point out on my arsenokoites page.

Oct 11, 2014
S@dom?
by: Aaron Saltzer

On your "Sodom-Genesis 19" page, every time you refer to Sodom and Gomorrah you type "S@dom". You do know that @ is a lower case a. I'm not trying to be a Smart Alec, just saying.

Rick's comment: Hi Aaron - thanks for pointing that out. It is my attempt to please the Google spiders. If I use the key word for a page too many times, Google spiders view it as key word spamming. So I spelled Sodom differently to avoid key word spamming.

Dec 13, 2014
Under grace?
by: Jill and Jennifer

My partner and I have been reading Romans 5-8 and It states somewhere in these chps that we as sinners are not saved by grace as we once thought! I am confused by this, bec I thought that Jesus died for us all that we would be not under the law and that we would be saved by His sacrifice!

Rick's comment: Hi Jill and Jennifer - Thanks for such a good question. I believe you are mistaken about what Romans says. Yes, we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ alone - and because of grace, we are not under the law, Romans 6:14, 10:1-4.

No, we are NEVER saved by ANY human works or human merit - those do not play any part in our salvation. That is the message of Paul in Romans 1-8. I encourage you to read those chapters out loud to each other, time after time, until the message of God's pure grace sinks into your hearts.

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How to get saved.

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How to grow as a disciple of Jesus?

Hope this is helpful Please keep in touch and let me know how you're doing and what our wonderful Lord is showing you in the Bible and in your spiritual life.

Oct 10, 2016
I've dealt with a lot of feelings
by: Kyle

I saw this eccspesually 26-27. what to do I feel I should pray and deny the flesh? 24Why God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error.

Rick's comment: Hi Kyle - I have lots of helpful information about Click here - Romans 1 - I hope you will read it because it explains what those verses mean.

Can you explain how to get saved?

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